Top 5 3 yr. old pacers in history revisited

[Brown jug]

correct, they will not risk his "legacy "on the 1/2 mile
and they can send cannibal
he will race at lexington and then breeders crown

[Fuguzzi]

correct, they will not risk his "legacy "on the 1/2 mile
and they can send cannibal
he will race at lexington and then breeders crown

I see no other scenarios BJ.  That's gonna be it.   I will watch his races sitting in my rocker 20 years from now - I hope.

No lasix - no matter, Timmy working pretty bard, but not screaming - no matter, earplugs still in all year - no matter.

He is such a delight to behold!

[dinkadoo]

To me greatest of all time is measured by many things. Not just time.

If you had year to year stats --- not just who was the best 3yo of that year.... But who was the 2nd or 3rd best 3yo of that season. Compare those names and you can see maybe a  more clearer picture of who the 'top' horse was racing against throughout the season.

getting somewhat off topic - but when I think back to the older horses, I always thought  an underrated horse was Mister Big. The class of open company he faced - and with horses retiring after 3 more often - what a tremendous quality of horses. The races Always B Miki and Jiggles had ..... Even the quality of older times like Bret Hanover and when I see old program pages posted on Facebook and the depth of those fields.

Confederate is a tremendous horse I would love to see come back and race at 4 against open company. Will that happen ? But the mile he put up was on a lightning fast track - the pace was set by a stablemate, and he was able to tip and demonstrate that he is a tremendous horse.... But tremendous only because of time ?

I think the class you face - is just as important as the time you set.

[Fuguzzi]

SBSW paced sub 1:50 doing heats on a half mile.

Needs no intro!! SBSW - best 3 year old pacer since at least 1990 - the new speed era.

[Fuguzzi]

To me greatest of all time is measured by many things. Not just time.

If you had year to year stats --- not just who was the best 3yo of that year.... But who was the 2nd or 3rd best 3yo of that season. Compare those names and you can see maybe a  more clearer picture of who the 'top' horse was racing against throughout the season.

getting somewhat off topic - but when I think back to the older horses, I always thought  an underrated horse was Mister Big. The class of open company he faced - and with horses retiring after 3 more often - what a tremendous quality of horses. The races Always B Miki and Jiggles had ..... Even the quality of older times like Bret Hanover and when I see old program pages posted on Facebook and the depth of those fields.

Confederate is a tremendous horse I would love to see come back and race at 4 against open company. Will that happen ? But the mile he put up was on a lightning fast track - the pace was set by a stablemate, and he was able to tip and demonstrate that he is a tremendous horse.... But tremendous only because of time ?

I think the class you face - is just as important as the time you set.

Dinka doo = I am right with you bro. I HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this obsession with time. And yes, the stacked fields of yesteryear at the aged top levels were the greatest spectacles in racing. Mares and trotters too. If allowed to continue, I believe Redwood Hanover from this crop can emerge as a top aged pacer

I am on board with class over time every day.

[Fuguzzi]

Party Girl Hill was a better horse. She beat the boys, was the first sub 1:50 mile by a female pacer on a half, and won heats.



Would love to see Miss Easy race today -she could beat the boys and would pace in 47 and change no doubt! She and Sanibel Island best female pacers I ever saw

[Fuguzzi]

Still waiting for the red ear plugs to be pulled.

[hoosierboy]

Life sign was defiantly better than artsplace at 3

[Fuguzzi]

Life sign was defiantly better than artsplace at 3

Life Sign - greatest jug performance in history! Hands down. stellar stacked field too!

[Generation XYZ]

How soon everyone forgets ABERCROMBIE

[Harness Stats]

Abercrombie goes down in history as the sire of Artsplace not by his racetrack performances which were good but not top five.

[Open bridle]

Where's Cam Fella on that list. He was Horse of the Year in 1982 in U.S. and Canada.

[Fuguzzi]

I get the whole Cam Fella thing. Main issues he beat absolutely nobody. But his almost unparalled win streak/s must be respected.

[Fuguzzi]

Certainly top ten 3 year old all time.  I was just compiling 5 absolute super horses.

[Generation XYZ]

Abercrombie goes down in history as the sire of Artsplace not by his racetrack performances which were good but not top five.

I can always count on you to deflate any situation.