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Old School
« on: September 17, 2023, 11:24:57 PM »
Better Is Nice is the leading money winning 2yr colt pacer.  He cruised today in 50.3. He warmed up with
brace bandages up front and obvious ball solution on his rear white legs. When he raced -- brace bandages behind and knee and tendon boots up front. Plus a Bret Hanover shadow roll. Definitely a throw back.

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2023, 11:55:47 PM »
What did he have in his jugular? That’s all I wanna know
Johnny Johnson fucked up Chicago harness racing. I hope you die !!!!

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2023, 07:34:11 AM »
Better Is Nice is the leading money winning 2yr colt pacer.  He cruised today in 50.3. He warmed up with
brace bandages up front and obvious ball solution on his rear white legs. When he raced -- brace bandages behind and knee and tendon boots up front. Plus a Bret Hanover shadow roll. Definitely a throw back.
Sounds like Clint Galbraith came back from beyond to train and rig him. Nice catch there, JIDGE ;D

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2023, 01:33:11 PM »
Plus a Bret Hanover shadow roll. Definitely a throw back.
OK, I have put on a thousand shadow rolls of every style know to man, but never heard of a specifically named "Bret Hanover" shadow roll. From the pictures I remember he wore just a plain two toned shadow roll. Have I missed something all these years?
Like "Shady Daisy" shadow roll?
I am just an old horse trainer still going around in circles. Sometimes Fast. Sometimes Half-Fast.

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2023, 01:54:42 PM »
The Bret Hanover shadow roll I used was cream colored, small in diameter and had two leather half moon pieces off of the centerline. Not a great idea but we thought it looked trick.

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2023, 03:15:25 PM »
The Bret Hanover shadow roll I used was cream colored, small in diameter and had two leather half moon pieces off of the centerline. Not a great idea but we thought it looked trick.
I remember shadow rolls and brush shadow rolls, Not many others.

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2023, 03:45:31 PM »
OK, I have put on a thousand shadow rolls of every style know to man, but never heard of a specifically named "Bret Hanover" shadow roll. From the pictures I remember he wore just a plain two toned shadow roll. Have I missed something all these years?
Like "Shady Daisy" shadow roll?

Correct. Two toned shadow roll. Don't see many anymore.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2023, 04:05:16 PM »
The Bret Hanover shadow roll I used was cream colored, small in diameter and had two leather half moon pieces off of the centerline. Not a great idea but we thought it looked trick.
I do remember that type also.

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2023, 04:06:39 PM »
Is it me, or does it seem like more horses wore shadow rolls in the past ( my day ) than now?

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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2023, 04:33:19 PM »
Is it me, or does it seem like more horses wore shadow rolls in the past ( my day ) than now?

Shadows rolls and super high heads with bow-tight overchecks are becoming a thing of the past. Test Of Faith points the way to the future.

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2023, 04:41:55 PM »
Yes, they are.  Don't see many 1/2 round, 1/2 swedge either.  I never understood the high head and tight overchecks.

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2023, 04:42:59 PM »
Shadows rolls and super high heads with bow-tight overchecks are becoming a thing of the past. Test Of Faith points the way to the future.
Yes, used to see guys check their horses up so high it was crazy. Remember the amish guy Syl King?  He used to race a couple at YR unchecked. I think one was Strikey Ironstone

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2023, 10:01:24 AM »
The higher the head,the shorter the stride in most cases. The guys who understand basic physics are the most successful when it comes to gaiting horses!

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2023, 10:17:16 AM »
The higher the head,the shorter the stride in most cases. The guys who understand basic physics are the most successful when it comes to gaiting horses!
Back in the day Bill Robinson stepped up a lot of horses like this.  Everything that came to him his head was let down several holes, hobbles let out 2-4 inches...4 alum shoes on and down the road.

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2023, 10:26:52 AM »
Back in the day Bill Robinson stepped up a lot of horses like this.  Everything that came to him his head was let down several holes, hobbles let out 2-4 inches...4 alum shoes on and down the road.
You forgot the tube 4 hours out. but i get you. he had some great assts. Monte Gelrod, Duane Marfisi, etc.

 

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