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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2023, 12:02:53 PM »
If this was a real story ( it is not), just look up the horse who finished second to find the mystery trainer.

Easy fix, make every other pylon out of concrete, and see how many guys go inside the pylons.

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2023, 12:16:54 PM »
Mind Bets  like an old Plop Poster would say...

Cashing tickets bigger than the pools....

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2023, 12:54:54 PM »
Regardless of all the BS what is the key element here is the total inconsistency regarding pylon infractions. I have written about this before on Plop but no one has good answer. The only good answer is a national rules and enforcement commission with one set of rules. The sport cannot continue to rule differently on the same infractions from track to track. I have no idea who this trainer is but it doesn’t matter does it? I don’t even need to watch the replays. This story repeats itself regularly all over the harness world. So either put back the unsafe wooden rail or get the rules and execution fixed once and for all.

The total inconsistency is the make up of our country. Different laws in every state. Drinking and smoking ages are different. Weed is ok in some places and not in others. You can sexually assault an animal in some states as well.

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2023, 02:15:07 PM »
The total inconsistency is the make up of our country. Different laws in every state. Drinking and smoking ages are different. Weed is ok in some places and not in others. You can sexually assault an animal in some states as well.
What if said animal gives consent?

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2023, 02:31:05 PM »
What if said animal gives consent?

What if said animal is the aggressor ?   11.wp

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2023, 03:52:30 PM »
This pylon topic is al BS because the USTA and the track owners have no guts. Put the damn wooden rail back up and this conversation ends immediately. Then pray no one gets hurt.

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2023, 04:03:15 PM »
If this was a real story ( it is not), just look up the horse who finished second to find the mystery trainer.

Easy fix, make every other pylon out of concrete, and see how many guys go inside the pylons.
LOL I LOVE YOUR IDEA OF CONCRETE PYLONS. GUARANTEED SOME OF THOSE GOOFS AT HOOSIER WOULD STILL HIT THOSE CONCRETE BARRIERS FULL SPEED. LMAO  ngc3  ngc3  ngc3  ngc3 ngc3 I'M GOING TO MENTION THIS TO RICK MOORE AND EMILY BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH HORSEPLOPPERS AND READ HERE EVERYDAY.
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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2023, 04:04:54 PM »
This pylon topic is al BS because the USTA and the track owners have no guts. Put the damn wooden rail back up and this conversation ends immediately. Then pray no one gets hurt.
THEY REALLY SHOULD PUT IN A PVC PIPING TYPE OF RAIL SO IT HAS SOME GIVE TO IT TO PREVENT INJURIES.
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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2023, 05:18:39 PM »
I think it was Cam Haughton who made this change at Yonkers. He got rid of the passing lane because every race was so predictable with it. It made the stretch runs much more competitive. Now all is needed is a pylon material that a driver will not get near without negatively affecting the safety of horse and driver. Could installing many more pylons also help?

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2023, 06:22:37 PM »
That was Cammie? Hmm. Never knew that. Didn't think a presiding judge had that power. I figured that would come from ownership and management. Interesting.

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2023, 08:18:15 PM »
Yes Fug he was hired by the track to make some changes for the better. Eliminating the passing lane surprised me how right he was. The problem is still speed and how many first and second place finishes ended the same way they began. That’s half mile racing and this has nothing to do with the pylon problem. Put up a real rail and it will take these judges out of making inconsistent decisions.

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2023, 09:05:37 PM »
Yes Fug he was hired by the track to make some changes for the better. Eliminating the passing lane surprised me how right he was. The problem is still speed and how many first and second place finishes ended the same way they began. That’s half mile racing and this has nothing to do with the pylon problem. Put up a real rail and it will take these judges out of making inconsistent decisions.
Gotcha. agree with your point. I always liked Cammie. All the kids for that matter. Many on here do not.

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2023, 09:14:00 PM »
Great article on the USTA site from March 7, 2018 regarding Cam and what he accomplished as Yonkers new Director of Racing. Just google him and Yonkers for the article to appear. I have no idea what he is up to nowadays but it would be great if you can find out. Thanks

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2023, 10:58:17 PM »
I thought cammie was tossed out of Yonkers for race fixing. There were a lot of horsemen racing there that hated his guts.
Johnny Johnson fucked up Chicago harness racing. I hope you die !!!!

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Re: Big time Attorneys fill lawsuit on behalf of Hoosier park trainer
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2023, 11:00:28 PM »
Cammie Haughton?

 

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