How Does Plainridge Harness Stay in Business

[theokodjak26]

I get it the casino is breast feeding the racing side to keep it going. But the owners of Plainridge would dump harness racing in a NY minute if they could. Check this out…today Plainridge held a $25,000 purse for a winners over crew. If you haven’t seen the total betting pool yet it was $5,177. As a stand alone track this place would be selling apples outside the front door in about 30 days. P.S. The superfecta pool was $594 before the take out. That’s so so bad.

[Fuguzzi]

I get it the casino is breast feeding the racing side to keep it going. But the owners of Plainridge would dump harness racing in a NY minute if they could. Check this out…today Plainridge held a $25,000 purse for a winners over crew. If you haven’t seen the total betting pool yet it was $5,177. As a stand alone track this place would be selling apples outside the front door in about 30 days. P.S. The superfecta pool was $594 before the take out. That’s so so bad.

Well my friend Theo, this is the point I was trying to make where Jason Bartlett and YR is concerned. If generated by handle alone, YR average purse would be $4,000. Maybe. And a slightly above average, niche driver like Jason would have 2 -3 million dollars a year in purses, not a bloated $9 million. Jason is good at what he does and where he does it getting 1st and 2nd call horses for some very disreputable trainers. When he can function at the Meadowlands or Grand Circuit, my opinion of Jason will go up. When George Brennan is not there, Jason is dominating a lot of stiffs. can't argue with the logic of your conclusions about Plainridge.

[pocketrocketwinner]

You got to have a one sick vendetta to flip this topic to Jason bartlett

[Fuguzzi]

Vendetta? I don't bet and i couldn't care less about Jason personally. I was racing horses before Jason was born and retired before he arrived. I used him as an example of a leading driver at a track whose purses are obscene and artificial and how it has bloated his pocketbook and stats. If you don't get that, that's your problem. No vendetta. Jason is just a big fish in a small, dying pond.

[Fuguzzi]

Also, not that I have to explain to you, I was trying to remind Theo of points I made in a different thread. ( concerning Jason ). I didn't flip anything.

[pocketrocketwinner]

I'm dumb, but I don't think that opinion is relevant to pathetic handle at plainridge. May I suggest you take your opinion uo with him Ina relevant topic? Or maybe, impossibly, to his face? You seem like a coward

[Fuguzzi]

I'm dumb, but I don't think that opinion is relevant to pathetic handle at plainridge. May I suggest you take your opinion uo with him Ina relevant topic? Or maybe, impossibly, to his face? You seem like a coward

Who's face, Jason's?   LOL  what's wrong with you?

[pocketrocketwinner]

Who's face, Jason's?   LOL  what's wrong with you?

I dont know, Fugazi. My face?
Every track is bloated by purses. This topic has nothing to due with JB. You're grasping at straws

[Balmoral buzz]

Vendetta? I don't bet and i couldn't care less about Jason personally. I was racing horses before Jason was born and retired before he arrived. I used him as an example of a leading driver at a track whose purses are obscene and artificial and how it has bloated his pocketbook and stats. If you don't get that, that's your problem. No vendetta. Jason is just a big fish in a small, dying pond.

I agree 10000000% with your post. Jason Bartlett is an average driver at any other racetrack outside of Yonkers where he gets 1st call for all of the juice trainers. If he isn’t listed on th3 best horse in the race, he immediately calls the trainer or owner and cries his way in to getting them to list him. If they don’t he goes out of his way to fuck them over. Jason is a horrible human being. I know he is a horseplopper and reads this but he is a very evil person.

[Fuguzzi]

But it does actually, because YR is handling atrociously. Purses would be 80 - 90 % less if generated by purse only. So where would someone like Jason go to be a leading driver (that would be worth his while), if MGM turned it into a parking lot tomorrow? Sorry you are so angry

[Fuguzzi]

I agree 10000000% with your post. Jason Bartlett is an average driver at any other racetrack outside of Yonkers where he gets 1st call for all of the juice trainers. If he isn’t listed on th3 best horse in the race, he immediately calls the trainer or owner and cries his way in to getting them to list him. If they don’t he goes out of his way to fuck them over. Jason is a horrible human being. I know he is a horseplopper and reads this but he is a very evil person.

Geez, I didn;t say anything like that. ouch

[pocketrocketwinner]

But it does actually, because YR is handling atrociously. Purses would be 80 - 90 % less if generated by purse only. So where would someone like Jason go to be a leading driver (that would be worth his while), if MGM turned it into a parking lot tomorrow? Sorry you are so angry

Every track handles atrociously. You jokers are just looking to take shots in unrelated topics at a particlar driver.
Where would the Ohio guys go if casinos went away? How about Indiana? Delaware? PA?

[Balmoral buzz]

Every track handles atrociously. You jokers are just looking to take shots in unrelated topics at a particlar driver.
Where would the Ohio guys go if casinos went away? How about Indiana? Delaware? PA?

They will all go to the same place when the casinos separate themselves. They will go to HELL where they belong.

[theokodjak26]

Wow I just woke up from a nap and I am a little surprised what I started. First of all I take no offense whatsoever what Fug wrote. This goes back to a cordial discussion about Jason Bartlett where a few Ploppers had varying opinions on his talents. That’s ok to have a debating platform here because debating is what we all do. I stood up for Bartlett because of the driving skills you must have on a half mile track like incredibly fast thinking and reflexes. The other side debated that drivers like Bartlett wouldn’t seem so hot if the purses were 25% of what they are today. So I conclude adding Bartlett to the Plainridge debate is relevant in a round about way. Nevertherless I still can’t imagine how Plainridge and tracks like it can survive unless these contracts with the casino owners are so air tight in favor of racing. We thought here in Florida decoupling would never happen yet it did thanks to the politicians. Whose to say this cannot happen again in NY, Ohio, PA etc.?

[theokodjak26]

By the way has everyone read that thoroughbred track Turf Paradise is closing up for good. In Arizona the only way you can keep the 37 OTBs with simulcasting is to first have a live racing track. Well that’s not going to happen now and this looks like the end of horse racing betting in Arizona.