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theokodjak26

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Re: YR questions
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2023, 03:34:20 AM »
Hey Fug don’t read too much into opposite opinions. That’s what this is all about here sharing opinions. And if some plopper gets a bit over the top there will be a time to reverse that situation. Anyway it seems obvious to me that Holland is a second or third call driver at YR. But he is good enough to hold his own and compile a very nice living for himself. And the owners pay a lot of bills by him finishing 2nd through 5th a lot. What he isn’t is a bettor’s delight unless you have the patience to wait for another Holland bomb. Typically in the last 5 programs he has 3 wins including some bombs. He also has seen a ton of horse rumps during this timeframe. My Holland rule is never bet him on a short price horse at YR. There isn’t any value doing that.

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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2023, 08:14:37 AM »
Excellent response from an adult.  Been watching him drive and quire bizarrely I might add for a month now. Take last night's 5th race. Inexpilicably bad, unless you have other "objectives". Cause he has been around waaaaaaay too long to know that was a terrible decision. If Cory Stratton or Troy Rossi drive one, I expect that move from them. Seems like Mr Holland is making a lot of money beyond his 200k salary from his 200 wins annually.

Again TY, Theo. you and others take a mature, non hostile tone whether we agree at the moment or not and I appreciate it tmbz1

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Re: YR questions
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2023, 08:24:49 AM »
I wish our government representatives would stop hating each other and try to be more respectful of each other. Add the citizens if the USA too.

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Re: YR questions
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2023, 09:45:28 AM »
AMEN  tmbz1

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Re: YR questions
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2023, 10:25:33 AM »
Brent has Vegas connections and will leave with anything from anywhere to screw up a race. Actually has some ability when he feels like it.

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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2023, 10:37:13 AM »
Oh, I know he "can drive". He just rarely does.

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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2023, 11:53:36 AM »
Just trying to clear up his story for you. It’s about making as much money as possible. Maybe if you looked at it tactically and he was more aggressive trying to run down wins with his allotment of 2 nds n 3rds would turn into 5 th, 6 , th 7 ths. which would impact his bottom line. When they’re driving for that kind of purses on a nightly bases it would be foolish financially to cowboy up.

Exactly why the racing sucks...not enough incentive to win.

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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2023, 01:06:47 PM »
Well YR does offer purses ranging from 12 to 36K nightly. Not bad for a place nobody cares about and nobody goes to. That should represent someincentive.

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Re: YR questions
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2023, 01:11:06 PM »
Oh, I know he "can drive". He just rarely does.

And this is why a place like Yonkers gets next to zero money bet into their "pools". The guy makes a good living at 150-200k per year and nobody cares what his driving abilities are or going dead tries are, because there is zero oversight. If slot welfare dried up tomorrow Holland would be a greeter at Walmart, but handouts like these with zero oversights make it far too easy for guys like this. Full disclosure..... have not made a bet at Yonkers since pandemic and many others have not either when they handle far less than Montishithole.

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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2023, 01:17:17 PM »
well said - definitely no oversight. I haven't bet there since i last raced a horse there. Like 12 years ago.

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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2023, 01:25:41 PM »
Montishithole..ho w sad is this accurate description? Can you imagine owning this place as is? Doesn’t the ownership have any pride? I don’t care if they own the glitzy Resorts casino that is only 10 minutes away. It’s hard to believe that a White Castle looks like a Ritz Carlton compared to MR in 2023.

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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2023, 01:32:58 PM »
Haven't been there in a decade now, but the building that housed the race office and judges rooms looked like a slum starting in the late 70s and looked that way well past 2010. Wonder what's it's like now.

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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2023, 03:24:15 PM »
I have not been there recently. Last time the building had the same old color chairs. It not a comfortable place to watch the races. There is a room for money that you get a seat & your own tv. That room needed some attention too.

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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2023, 04:44:21 PM »
I have not been there recently. Last time the building had the same old color chairs. It not a comfortable place to watch the races. There is a room for money that you get a seat & your own tv. That room needed some attention too.
That room needs attention too…lol. The only thing MR needs is a wrecking ball.

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Re: YR questions
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2023, 06:30:01 PM »
I once heard that Holland and another driver makes more money betting on Bartlett than they do driving for five percent.

 

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