YR questions

[theokodjak26]

I once heard that Holland and another driver makes more money betting on Bartlett than they do driving for five percent.

That rumor sounds 100% ridiculous to me. If a driver in a race is caught betting on another driver/horse wouldn’t that driver lose his license? You think betting on Bartlett to collect another small payout is worth losing one’s livelihood? Pass

[remington]

I hate to tell you, but it is easier to lose a race than win a race and a lot of drivers made a small fortune betting on the races. There are a lot of drivers that retired or quit driving in their fifties and lived very comfortable lives after that.

[theokodjak26]

Rem your 2nd post is different than your 1st post. You may think this is a difference in semantics but here is my take. In your first post you indicated Holland would just bet on Bartlett and make a lot of money. The message was Holland didn’t try and he felt Bartlett wouldn’t lose. Still not good and probably punishable by a huge suspension. Your reply to said something very different. Here you are indicating a driver just didn’t try and made bets trying to pick who would win, not just a specific driver. Also a very punishable offense but different. If you are saying a driver threw a race, also knew 3 others drivers were doing the same so everyone could box a triple or superfecta that is collusion with the attempt to fix a race. That sounds like the life Larry Rolla claimed he lived. Of all these scenarios the least likely is your original claim of stiffing just to bet Bartlett regularly.

[7minuteAbz]

He can do both at the same time; measure off 3rd, get a decent piece, and bet Jason to win, if he wanted to.

[theokodjak26]

Pretty risky stuff to win so little don’t you think?

[7minuteAbz]

Pretty risky stuff to win so little don’t you think?

It adds up if you are betting thousands.

[theokodjak26]

Still a non-starter for me. Betting thousands into small YR pools won’t yield very much, it will draw a lot of attention and again not worth the risk. Sounds like a bunch of fake news to me.

[Yonkers1A]

It’s 20 minutes of work a night, not a bad hourly wage

[rainman2]

Well YR does offer purses ranging from 12 to 36K nightly. Not bad for a place nobody cares about and nobody goes to. That should represent someincentive.

Nobody goes to?  Really?  Whoever goes there is racing for at least 33% more purse money than any other track in North America!  From a gambler's perspective, YES WHO CARES!

[Fuguzzi]

Hey buddy  A bit confused here.,   Either you missed my point or I am missing yours.   The racing there, for the most part, like Yankee baseball is brutally unwatchable. Many shady trainers and corruption starts in the race office and permeates everywhere.

[theokodjak26]

Fug what is the motive of the racing office to not be totally honest. Is the shortage of horses causing the race secretary to write conditions that keeps trainers from wanting to leave?

[Fuguzzi]

I have heard all sorts of accusations lodged at that office. I really have no idea whats going on there beyond what people allege. I never had to deal with anyone at YR race office but Steve Starr and Ray Goodness. Total pieces of shit for different reasons.

[theokodjak26]

I used to think that someone was going to put a gun to Steven Starr’s head.

[Fuguzzi]

You know that little bathroom at the end of the hall in the old race office at YR between Steve Starr's office and the judges offices? They say that Joe Marsh jr once walked in there and found Steve Starr hunched over the sink, a line of coke in front of him, bleeding from the nose, from that day forward, Marsh could write his own ticket at YR. this i have been told, is a true story.

[onabrake]

That rumor sounds 100% ridiculous to me. If a driver in a race is caught betting on another driver/horse wouldn’t that driver lose his license? You think betting on Bartlett to collect another small payout is worth losing one’s livelihood? Pass

As previously said, there is ZERO oversight. Holland could easily bet on whoever he wants and NOBODY will bat an eyelash. Would not be surprised at all if he makes some extra on Bartlett throughout the year.