Twins...sort of.

[Fuguzzi]

I know. But his is a different story.

[Fuguzzi]

Have you transitioned into Bob Heyden?

OUCH!  Nah, I was just wondering who in the last 30, 40 years besides Ray, if anyone, won at least 1 Hambo and 1 MP, so I did some research.

[Stan durbread]

I know. But his is a different story.

Both are good horseman but great chemist. I don’t see any reason to celebrate them. But that is only my opinion

[remington]

Ray is no saint.

[Fuguzzi]

I've known ray since the day he arrived in 86. used to do paddocks for him too. I can't recall a major positive or suspension of significance. Stand up guy, honest and worked his ass off for everything he has. least that's my take.

[Stan durbread]

Ray is straight up cowboy. Little rough around the edges but good horsemanship. Never been caught up in the needle culture. When he has a goo one it is tough to beat. Not like a few others that always seem to have a goo one that can’t hardly be beat

[Fuguzzi]

 

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

OUCH!  Nah, I was just wondering who in the last 30, 40 years besides Ray, if anyone, won at least 1 Hambo and 1 MP, so I did some research.

Blair Burgess?

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

OUCH!  Nah, I was just wondering who in the last 30, 40 years besides Ray, if anyone, won at least 1 Hambo and 1 MP, so I did some research.

Nancy Takter?

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

OUCH!  Nah, I was just wondering who in the last 30, 40 years besides Ray, if anyone, won at least 1 Hambo and 1 MP, so I did some research.

Ray Remmen?

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

OUCH!  Nah, I was just wondering who in the last 30, 40 years besides Ray, if anyone, won at least 1 Hambo and 1 MP, so I did some research.

Steve Elliott?

[GTW]

Better make it triplets.

Gelrod won the Meadowlands pace 5X. Twice when he was the trainer and 3X with Robinson listed as the trainer.
Plus he won the Hambo with Giant Victory. 

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Better make it triplets.

Gelrod won the Meadowlands pace 5X. Twice when he was the trainer and 3X with Robinson listed as the trainer.
Plus he won the Hambo with Giant Victory. 

I thought Giant Victory was trained by Per Eriksson

[GTW]

I thought Giant Victory was trained by Per Eriksson

 

[Fuguzzi]

Gelrod did not train Giant Victory.