CON-federate vs. Bythemissal TVG pace November 25th!

[The Thorn]

It's on the Condition sheet. I'm sure Bowden read the sheet before accepting the invite. Whats interesting is that the open trot has the same conditions and Tactical Approach has the rail. How is that possible?

[Stan durbread]

Only the leader drew for 1-6.  Like an elimination winner. The rest were open draws

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Only the leader drew for 1-6.  Like an elimination winner. The rest were open draws

It must be so nice to be wrong one day and then correct yourself and act like you know it all the next.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Bowden knew. Pelling knew. I don't know how many point-getters there were, so I don't know if Confederate was guaranteed post 7 at best. As far as I was concerned, didn't matter. Just another hurdle to overcome. Big hurdles here.

[Generation XYZ]

Burke keeps his horses on the track longer and does not hide from small tracks. How Burke took Foiled Again and Atlanta to different tracks at the end of their careers shows he cares more about the sport than other big stables.

Hell I remember Foiled Again appearing at Shennendoah in Winchester Va.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Burke keeps his horses on the track longer and does not hide from small tracks. How Burke took Foiled Again and Atlanta to different tracks at the end of their careers shows he cares more about the sport than other big stables.

Burke is a racing operation. Not strictly a grand-circuit operation. Racing, racehorses, that's his business model. Wherever they win they race. If you think he is keeping horses on the track longer because of caring about the sport you are being naive. As far as hiding from small tracks, case by case. If he has horses who can't get around a half, they don't race on a half. If one gets skippy or has trouble with the turns, he keeps them away from small tracks/tight turns. And lastly, what he did with Foiled Again and Atlanta at the end of their careers does not show how much he cares about the sport. Just because he made a comment about being glad people got to see FA or Atlanta doesn't mean that was his motivation. He runs the biggest business in the sport. That's first and foremost for him.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Hell I remember Foiled Again appearing at Shennendoah in Winchester Va.

When he won the race there it was a special $25,000 Open, and Burke had one in the same trot race too. Exception not the rule with Burke.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

You are wrong. He did not take Foiled Again to fairs or have him available for photos with fans at Delaware to make money. He did not race Foiled Again at The Meadows on New Year's Eve night in a nothing race for money. He did not take Atlanta to Delaware on Jug day for money. I was surprised to see Atlanta racing on a half but it was her last year and it was a big crowd who wanted to see her. It is certainly a business but he also makes his "stars" available to the fans. Burke often has some of his better horses in the grandstand on big days at The Meadows.

How many times has Atlanta raced on a half? She was in Delaware her last year as much for the fans as for any other reason.

I root for Burke for a simple and no doubt biased reason and that is he is USA born and bred. Is he squeeky clean? Who the fuck really knows but I am sick and tired of foreign pieces of shit winning big races. There, I said it. If you don't like it, go fuck yourself.

[wizardofoz]

“As for the decision to race in the FanDuel Pace, it was a matter of nothing to lose while something great for the game,” said five-time Meadowlands Pace-winner Brett Pelling, the trainer of Confederate. “As far as the race is concerned, I think all three horses have put in superlative, dominant efforts all season, which turns this into a driver/trainer race. Who gets the performance on a cool night in late November?”

[Grandstand Handicapper]

You are wrong. He did not take Foiled Again to fairs or have him available for photos with fans at Delaware to make money. He did not race Foiled Again at The Meadows on New Year's Eve night in a nothing race for money. He did not take Atlanta to Delaware on Jug day for money. I was surprised to see Atlanta racing on a half but it was her last year and it was a big crowd who wanted to see her. It is certainly a business but he also makes his "stars" available to the fans. Burke often has some of his better horses in the grandstand on big days at The Meadows.

How many times has Atlanta raced on a half? She was in Delaware her last year as much for the fans as for any other reason.

Selective reading and response. I didn't say he didn't take the horse to fairs or Delaware or pose for photos, or shake hands, and kiss babies, to make money -- but I am glad you did. He does it all for the fans! He's a Saint! Go hail him!

[Grandstand Handicapper]

He did it for two years with Foiled Again and he was showcasing Atlanta her last year.

Showcasing for the fans! Just for the fans! Make sure he gets the credit now!

[wizardofoz]

 
RACE 11 - Meadowlands - NJ - November 25, 2023
Conditions: FANDUEL CHAMPIONSHIP Open Pace (Declaration Fee - $5,000 )
Gait: Pace Purse: 350,000 Class: FanDue lDistance: 1 MilePost Time: 10:30 PM (Detention 12:00 PM)
PP    Horse   Med   2023 North America YTD    Driver    Trainer   ML   Claim
    Equip   Sts    W    P    S    Time    Earnings         Stable   Odds   Price
1    Southwind Gendry   L    22     6     2     4     1:47.2F     $112002     Joe Bongiorno    Ron Burke   20-1   
2    I Did It Myway       17     6     3     0     1:47.3M     $279217     Jordan Stratton    Chuck Crissman Jr   25-1   
3    Bythemissal       15     11     1     1     1:47.1M     $901541     Yannick Gingras    Ron Burke   3-2   
4    Tattoo Artist   L    23     9     6     2     1:47.3S     $933962     Louis Roy    Chris Ryder   4-1   
5    Abuckabett Hanover       12     3     2     2     1:47.2S     $191203     Dexter Dunn    Andrew Harris   10-1   
6    Allywag Hanover   L    16     3     2     1     1:47.2M     $420788     Todd McCarthy    Brett Pelling   8-1   
7    Taurasi   L    15     2     4     3     1:47.2M     $174351     Andrew McCarthy    Tony Alagna   20-1   
8    Lou`s Pearlman   L    24     3     5     2     1:49.0F     $328750     David Miller    Ron Burke   12-1   
9    Confederate
 3, Sweet Lou-Geothermal   L    14     13     1     0     1:46.1M     $1630354     Tim Tetrick    Brett Pelling   7-2   
10    Linedrive Hanover       16     3     2     5     1:47.0S     $191210     Scott Zeron    Linda Toscano   15-1   

[Bitter Truth]

Confederate, NO CHANCE, especially way out there. Missile for fun at 1-2.

[wizardofoz]

Bythemissal is the big M/L favorite to boot at 3/2!  Is it possible the bettors can get a final odds on CON-federate of 2/1?

[comeonman]

Great Great race its going to be...the top 3 horses have 3 of the best drivers in the sport...the three trainers all great...with Pelling being the best in history of sport.. bymissle and tattoo have big post edge on confederate...all waywG will be making sure of pace....if confederate in shouting distance turning for home my pick....don't be shocked..you heard it here... confederate on the boiler the entire race....