CON-federate vs. Bythemissal TVG pace November 25th!

[TimTimTimbo]

This from HRU

TIM TETRICK ON THE BIG WEEKEND

“There was not a lot of pressure in 2013 when Captaintreacherou s
tried this. He only got beat a couple lengths. That was a year with a
very tough bunch of older pacers. He was fine, and at 4 he was too.
“I remember that night winning the TVG with Market Share from
the outside post on the lead. I didn’t race him there much. If
you looked at him, you probably weren’t that impressed. His
gait wasn’t the best, but he was so darn fast.”


“Confederate is like Muggsy Bogues (smallest NBA star ever at
5’3”) out there, but competes like Michael Jordan. He is not like
some of those much bigger stronger types, but he is so fast and
keeps on going. I can’t think of a single horse who has passed
him. It’s been a great ride. I’m going to be sad, heart-broken
when he retires.


“Confederate has a little advantage over Captaintreacherou s in
this situation. With Captain, I had to race him or move him to
the front as he was the huge favorite. Confederate is used to
coming after horses and he loves it
“I still say Walner is the greatest horse I’ve ever driven. It’s such
a shame that people never got to see what he really could do.”
Any regrets about not going faster than 1:46.1 this
year with him?


“I never pulled the plugs and he was idling the last four, five pylons.”
Could he have gone faster?
“Yes, but I don’t think it’s such a good idea. You never want to
go to the absolute bottom of the tank. You can’t be sure how
they will race after that.
“When you drive a lot of great horses, you tend to take it for
granted. I had Heston Blue Chip, Chapter Seven, Market Share,
Captaintreacherou s, American Jewel and horses like that all at
the same time and at that moment, you feel this will happen
every year. It’s only later you realize how it works, that is not the
case. You have to appreciate it when it’s there.

[SeattleSlew]

Tetrick also talked about trying to sit a 4 hole while they burn it up top.  Yannick's mode of driving (very frequently) is the get the top and then really slow the middle half.  Thus, even if there is a horse behind him who is faster for the mile, it really turns into a quarter mile sprint.  If Tetrick is not more aggressive he may find himself in a similar situation to what happened in the Pepsi North American.  I personally think that Confederate is the better horse;  however Tattoo Artist the Missile are both in peak shape, so it will be one hell of a race.

[wizardofoz]

DRF program page version:  https://v.fastcdn.co/u/1361f4ff/64671567-0-MEADOWLANDS11-25.pdf

[wizardofoz]

Why should any driver let Tetrick 'SLIDE' into 4th place as a courtesy tuck any way? They could force him to be parked if they wanted to.

[Babinga]

Trackmaster does not even rate Bythemissal as a 1,2 or 3 POWER rating to boot!

That’s a good point.  Can someone explain to me how 20-1(ml), Post 7 Taurasi has a HIGHER Power Rating than Bythemissal?  Besides beating Taurasi a number of times, BTM’s “numbers” are better in just about every measure.

I’m assuming this is NOT a misprint.

Babi

[Laag]

Keep in mind there are 2 other Burke horses entered plus Pelling's Allywag. These are the variables to alter the race. I expect Bythemissle, Tattoo to blast and Allywag likely parked past the quarter but pressing on. I expect Confederate  will be following him. If Allywag clears I like Confederates chances to win. If Bythemissle refuses to let Allywag clear he runs the risk of   emptying the tank by the 3/4s

What if pigs like Southwind Gendry blast and protect rail

Also wouldn't  rule out Abuckabett Hanover with the right trip

I dont  see Tattoo Artist based on his last couple winning this

[Parked]

Crazy things can happen like.    Yannick getting to the 1/4 in 27.4 and to the half in 55.4.  And if so , turn out the lights. 

[onabrake]

Why should any driver let Tetrick 'SLIDE' into 4th place as a courtesy tuck any way? They could force him to be parked if they wanted to.

So they can follow him when he pulls and get a second over trip to get a good piece of the 350k.

[Bernie Madoff]

Is there anywhere someone can watch this without a wagering account or an RTN subscription?

Meadowlands website.

[Generation XYZ]

Tonight's the night, that the CONDFEDERATE gets a loss, Bowden a word of advise bring the lube.

[wizardofoz]

"This year, I feel...not more confident because they're both great horses, but my horse has learned to race off the pace and knows how to go attack one," said Tetrick in terms of facing the likes of Bythemissal. "Second over, that's his bread and butter. If I could ever be in that spot, or if I can make Bythemissal do the work and I follow him, I think I could rip his bridle off.

"I don't think I can go out and get beat up and still win," Tetrick continued. "He can do it on the lead but I can't have four horses going after him."----------"It was windy, you know, he did all the work, we went :28, :28, :28 and :27 home into the wind in the qualifier," said Tetrick.  "Brett said, 'Were you happy?' I'm like 'heck yeah, I was happy. He was good.' He goes, 'he'll be nine times better come Saturday.' He said his horse is going to breathe fire on Saturday. I was excited about that."

[wizardofoz]

[Generation XYZ]

Adam Bowden after TONGHT'S LOSS 

[Stan durbread]

If Allywag has a chance to beat Confederate, would Todd Mccarthy go all out to win or would he just take second?

Hot Toddy will win if he can.

[Brown jug]

regardless of the outcome i appreciate them entering confederate and giving us one hell of a sendoff to the 2023 season