SOMEONE WHO DIDNT TAKE TO KINDLY TO 60 MINUTES SYNOPSIS

[rainman2]

I HAVE A LIFE THANK YOU,,,,,, YOU ARE EITHER STUPID OR TRYING TO START SHIT WITH PEOPLE.  LETS RECAP, YOU CONFIRMED EARLIER ON THIS THREAD THAT YOU HAVE AN HONEST TRAINER. SO ITS CLEAR THAT YOU KNOW WHO IS HONEST AND WHO IS DISHONEST. SO WHY COME ON HERE ASKING OTHERS TO POST HONES/DISHONEST TRAINERS? YOU ALREADY CONFIRMED BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION YOU HAVE AN HONEST TRAINER SO CLEARLY YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE! STOP BEING AN A-HOLE

We all have lives!  Thank you.
FYI, I just post here. If you deem this as ‘starting shit’ with people, I’m sorry you see it that way.
Please stop your whining and crying here on horseplop. You don’t see me whining/crying/cursing here too.

[kooter for hipin]

BUTE IS NOT A THING OF THE PAST. JUST ASK ERV MILLER AS HE ALLEGEDLY HAD A BUTE OVERAGE AT THE BIG M AND GOT A 15 DAY SUSPENSION. IT WAS POSTED ON THE USTA FINES AND SUSPENSIONS. SO THERE YOU HAVE IT, ERV STILL USES IT.

Gee, Erv uses it.  Wow! That's a benchmark statement.  It's an anti-inflamatory readily available. There are just many more effective pain killers out there with better results.  Actually, there are probably still Gyps at Bull Rings around the country that still pin-fire low.

[horses first]

I HAVE A LIFE THANK YOU,,,,,, YOU ARE EITHER STUPID OR TRYING TO START SHIT WITH PEOPLE.  LETS RECAP, YOU CONFIRMED EARLIER ON THIS THREAD THAT YOU HAVE AN HONEST TRAINER. SO ITS CLEAR THAT YOU KNOW WHO IS HONEST AND WHO IS DISHONEST. SO WHY COME ON HERE ASKING OTHERS TO POST HONES/DISHONEST TRAINERS? YOU ALREADY CONFIRMED BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION YOU HAVE AN HONEST TRAINER SO CLEARLY YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE! STOP BEING AN A-HOLE

Probably one of those members with 6 screen names and only motive is to stir up shit. Just a guess might be wrong but that is the way of these forums.

[LAW AND ORDER]

Probably one of those members with 6 screen names and only motive is to stir up shit. Just a guess might be wrong but that is the way of these forums.

MAYBE THE COCK LOVER BLUTARSKY     

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

My brother is a equine drug sales rep for Merck. His two biggest sellers are Bute and Banamine. Anyone who thinks their usage has declined is sadly mistaken.

[Stan durbread]

The recent 60 Minutes feature on doping and safety in horse racing was brought up by more than one attendee. Lazarus was interviewed on camera for the segment, which was 13 minutes long.

Lazarus said that behind the scenes, the interview ran for two hours during which time she pointed out the positive steps the sport has made in safety and medication regulation and praised the many trainers who have been successfully following the rules.

“They didn't choose to report any of that,” she said.

Although HISA/HIWU are not charged, per the law creating them, with doing anything resembling public relations or media relations on behalf of the industry, officials said they do reach out to mainstream media to request corrections when they see a factual inaccuracy that overlaps with their regulation – like the 60 Minutes report referring to betamethasone as a “banned” substance when it is in fact a restricted therapeutic. Lazarus noted she thinks trade media have correctly made the distinction between the two types of violations in the course of their reporting.

 

[Generation XYZ]

Of course the Media will only report of the negative. Again why waste the time if your not going to report the FULL story negative and positive. This is the problem with media suppression. Only putting some producers slant on the topic

[kooter for hipin]

My brother is a equine drug sales rep for Merck. His two biggest sellers are Bute and Banamine. Anyone who thinks their usage has declined is sadly mistaken.

I used bute every time a horse came out of a race lame. My point is does the good out way the bad and that there are better alternatives.  I'm sure your brother is aware that continued use leads to an adverse effect on the blood chemistry. 

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

I used bute every time a horse came out of a race lame. My point is does the good out way the bad and that there are better alternatives.  I'm sure your brother is aware that continued use leads to an adverse effect on the blood chemistry.

You said bute is a thing of the past. It is not. Also, it is not supposed to be used continually. As far as leading to an adverse effect on the blood chemistry, you would have to be using it daily for quite some time. I think the bigger side effect like most NSAIDS is gut related.

[dougie]

Harness racing, in decline for many years certainly wasn't "bouyed" by the 60 minutes feature. While i have little doubt, there are many cheaters in our sport, i've always felt that there are cheaters in every sport. I have not always agreed with Jeff Gural. But i think he is trying to clean up the horrible "optics" we all see about this great sport. His battle to bring harness racing back into the "heyday" of the 60's and 70's might be noble. Getting young new fans will be the toughest part.

[kooter for hipin]

You said bute is a thing of the past. It is not. Also, it is not supposed to be used continually. As far as leading to an adverse effect on the blood chemistry, you would have to be using it daily for quite some time. I think the bigger side effect like most NSAIDS is gut related.

Not going to split hairs with you Mike.  I have always valued you opinion, so lets just leave it at that. 

[LAW AND ORDER]

Of course the Media will only report of the negative. Again why waste the time if your not going to report the FULL story negative and positive. This is the problem with media suppression. Only putting some producers slant on the topic

COME ON XYZ BRO. JUST LOOK AT OUR SPORT. THE BAD IS ABOUT 97% AND ON A GOOD DAY ITS MAYBE 3% POSITIVE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, HOW IN THE HELL COULD THEY REALLY REPORT ANYTHING GOOD WITH HARNESS RACING IN ITS CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS? ESPECIALLY AFTER THE SECOND ROUND OF NAMES AND INDICTMENTS LURKING ON THE HORIZON AND MORE WAVES TO COME. IN MY OPINION HARNESS RACING SHOULD SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY, THEN RE-GROUP AFTER A ONE YEAR ABSENCE SO MAYBE WE CAN ALL MISS IT ENOUGH AND GENUINELY CARE ENOUGH TO TRY TO DO THINGS RIGHT. JMVHO

[Generation XYZ]

COME ON XYZ BRO. JUST LOOK AT OUR SPORT. THE BAD IS ABOUT 97% AND ON A GOOD DAY ITS MAYBE 3% POSITIVE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, HOW IN THE HELL COULD THEY REALLY REPORT ANYTHING GOOD WITH HARNESS RACING IN ITS CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS? ESPECIALLY AFTER THE SECOND ROUND OF NAMES AND INDICTMENTS LURKING ON THE HORIZON AND MORE WAVES TO COME. IN MY OPINION HARNESS RACING SHOULD SHUT DOWN COMPLETELY, THEN RE-GROUP AFTER A ONE YEAR ABSENCE SO MAYBE WE CAN ALL MISS IT ENOUGH AND GENUINELY CARE ENOUGH TO TRY TO DO THINGS RIGHT. JMVHO

You get no argument from me. My beef is with the media slant to negativity.  Not just this topic, but largely any topic.

[LAW AND ORDER]

You get no argument from me. My beef is with the media slant to negativity.  Not just this topic, but largely any topic.

I AGREE. JUST GLAD THAT ALL OF AMERICA FINALLY GOT SEE WHAT THESE SCUMBAGS DID TO THE SPORT THAT WE LOVE. WONDER WHEN ROUND 2 IS GOING FULL THROTTLE AND ROUND 3 IS COMING? HOPE THEY GET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SCUMBAGS.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Not going to split hairs with you Mike.  I have always valued you opinion, so lets just leave it at that.