WHO IS MISSING AT THE MEADOWLANDS

[Harness racer]

In these crap fields it is hard to make a case for any of them.  So the bettor gets locked on a horse or two and feels they are getting a "great" price and fires as much or more than they would on a stakes race.  A full field of crap horses does make for competitive racing, even if it's shit racing.  Not something I like to invest my money in.

[The Thorn]

I'm looking at the W/O Mares on Saturday. I see Beach Cowgirl is trained by Burke. Wasn't that a stakes horse for Jenn?

Yes, been racing against the best 3yr old fillys for a while now. Will have to check to see if there are new owners.  That race actually does have a couple of mares with class.

[rainman2]

In these crap fields it is hard to make a case for any of them.  So the bettor gets locked on a horse or two and feels they are getting a "great" price and fires as much or more than they would on a stakes race.  A full field of crap horses does make for competitive racing, even if it's shit racing.  Not something I like to invest my money in.

Not quite accurate!  For years harness racing ‘thrived’ on “crap” fields—2500 claimers, 3000 claimers, 4000 claimers, very bad Nw/1, Nw/2, Nw 1000/l5 etc.   We all do want we want with our money. Whether it is horses, gambling, sex ( male/female), and so many other good things.
Has The Meadowlands gone downhill over the last 30 years?  It sure had but be thankful it’s still here.  Many of these horses are here is because they need a bigger track to race on and the purse money is still better than most other tracks in North America today.

[Parked]

I’ve been watching races for over 65 years , some of the best were “crap “ races. 
Whats better a bottom to mid condition race with 5 finishers across the wire or a $50,000 open race  where the 1-5 wins by 10??

[LAW AND ORDER]

In these crap fields it is hard to make a case for any of them.  So the bettor gets locked on a horse or two and feels they are getting a "great" price and fires as much or more than they would on a stakes race.  A full field of crap horses does make for competitive racing, even if it's shit racing.  Not something I like to invest my money in.

IF YOU LIKE CRAP LIKE THAT THEN YOU GOTTA BET HAWTHORNE ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY NIGHTS. ITS THE ABSOLUTE PITS OF HARNESS RACING. MOST OF THE HORSES SHIP UP FROM THE AMISH FARMS IN BETWEEN PLOWING THE FIELDS TO GET A START OR TWO IN.

[Kirbys Ace]

As long as I cash my ticket, I don't care where they come from!

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

The posters that are criticizing M! for having crap fields in 2023 are Gural haters and are embarrassing themselves, as no other harness track handles more regardless of the quality. I have programs of M1 from 1977 that are filled with 10 and 15K claiming races and you had a hard time finding a seat in the grandstand. Gamblers don't care about the quality of horse, they just want a competitive race where they can get value for their wager.

[Parked]

The posters that are criticizing M! for having crap fields in 2023 are Gural haters and are embarrassing themselves, as no other harness track handles more regardless of the quality. I have programs of M1 from 1977 that are filled with 10 and 15K claiming races and you had a hard time finding a seat in the grandstand. Gamblers don't care about the quality of horse, they just want a competitive race where they can get value for their wager.

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[dougie]

I know that many horseploppers don't like those "cheap races". But i've always loved those 6000-10000 claimers who race 40 or so times a year. Their owners move them up and down the ladder looking for the "sweet spot" to make a score. It's fun tracking how these trainers always fit a similar pattern while managing their "cheap" stock. My trainer in the early 90's has about 8-10 horses. Always a low level "claimer". Some of the horses at Pompano were claimed numerous times in a year. Trainers were looking for "steady" check makers to offset those hefty bills.

[rainman2]

IF YOU LIKE CRAP LIKE THAT THEN YOU GOTTA BET HAWTHORNE ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY NIGHTS. ITS THE ABSOLUTE PITS OF HARNESS RACING. MOST OF THE HORSES SHIP UP FROM THE AMISH FARMS IN BETWEEN PLOWING THE FIELDS TO GET A START OR TWO IN.

The ‘ultimate crap’ at Hawthorne or are there “worse tracks”in North America today??

[hoosierboy]

I'm looking at the W/O Mares on Saturday. I see Beach Cowgirl is trained by Burke. Wasn't that a stakes horse for Jenn?

Burke doesn’t have enough horses already now bearding

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I have no idea what constitutes "crap" here on this website, but the fact is, the Meadowlands looks to card races with two major motivations in mind -- full fields and competitive fields. Period. You may not like how they do it or the product they put out. If you don't, tell your story walking and go play bingo. I've been betting on horses for over 40 years and not as a casual fan or bettor. As a bettor, that's what I look for, full and competitive fields, and I add one other thing and that's a large (enough) pool to bet into. I also look, after the fact, and the percentage of winning favorites. Go by those parameters, check out the Meadowlands, tell me it's crap, and that way I can no longer pay attention to you.

[pocketrocketwinner]

I have no idea what constitutes "crap" here on this website, but the fact is, the Meadowlands looks to card races with two major motivations in mind -- full fields and competitive fields. Period. You may not like how they do it or the product they put out. If you don't, tell your story walking and go play bingo. I've been betting on horses for over 40 years and not as a casual fan or bettor. As a bettor, that's what I look for, full and competitive fields, and I add one other thing and that's a large (enough) pool to bet into. I also look, after the fact, and the percentage of winning favorites. Go by those parameters, check out the Meadowlands, tell me it's crap, and that way I can no longer pay attention to you.

A relatively large % of the meadowlands pools are represented by CAW handle that represents itself in the off odds well after race start. You don't look at any of that?

[rainman2]

I have no idea what constitutes "crap" here on this website, but the fact is, the Meadowlands looks to card races with two major motivations in mind -- full fields and competitive fields. Period. You may not like how they do it or the product they put out. If you don't, tell your story walking and go play bingo. I've been betting on horses for over 40 years and not as a casual fan or bettor. As a bettor, that's what I look for, full and competitive fields, and I add one other thing and that's a large (enough) pool to bet into. I also look, after the fact, and the percentage of winning favorites. Go by those parameters, check out the Meadowlands, tell me it's crap, and that way I can no longer pay attention to you.

Someone mentioned Hawthorne already.  Monticello has bad horses, but they wager just as much if not more than Yonkers.  Yonkers just has faster horses and race for more money. Cal Expo?  Full fields at Cal ex, and does Fanduel/TVG still promote their racing for additional betting revenue?  Buffalo/Batavia?  Rosecroft has fast races and they are fun to watch as they have a subpar driving colony. 

[seen2much]

Imaginary Line wins first time Corelli. A trainer change from Bongiorno. I believe the owner is the same.
Didn't Corelli beard when they had the NY owned bonus at YR?