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pocketrocketwinner

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2023, 12:30:48 PM »
The need starts and ends with a complete overhaul in the price to gamble on racing (both breeds) to something that comes close to a competition with all other forms of legal gambling

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2023, 02:49:06 PM »
According to posters here named Jackie Mo and Bitter Truth, handle is irrelevent so if you believe them, then harness racing doesn't need to care about gamblers.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2023, 05:15:36 PM »
 No , what we said was that currently handle is irrelevant as far as 'purses' go. Obviously a higher handle offers better opportunities for placing a larger wager and/or payoffs.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2023, 08:20:37 PM »
To get rid of the USTA, H. Society, & all the executives who do nothing...but collect checks.
Real drug testing with consequences. All cheaters treating the same...big or small.
Drivers to be less friendly & race the horses.
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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2023, 09:30:01 PM »
No , what we said was that currently handle is irrelevant as far as 'purses' go. Obviously a higher handle offers better opportunities for placing a larger wager and/or payoffs.
Once again, spoken like a true non horsemen. If handle is irrelevant as far as purses are concerned, then I vote to get rid of gambling on horses and just race for purses. Gamblers can go find something else to bet on and casinos can continue to give the horsemen purse money.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2023, 10:48:44 AM »
No , what we said was that currently handle is irrelevant as far as 'purses' go. Obviously a higher handle offers better opportunities for placing a larger wager and/or payoffs.

This makes no sense.
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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2023, 11:15:27 AM »
This makes no sense.

Agreed.  It might make sense to the author   hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2023, 12:12:49 PM »
Competition is not what it used to be for the entertainment dollar. Tracks have to become more creative like incorporating concerts and things of that nature to the track. 

Can you imagine how many degenerate gamblers would leave their seats at Pocono or Yonkers for a wet T-shirt contest/bikini contest that actually paid for the top 5 held between races at the winners circle or in the winter in a section of the stands? If you had a contest between each race they would be hanging around the track watching racing.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2023, 12:25:46 PM »
Racing is a gambling game. There will never be a concert or naked women contest that will help.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2023, 12:32:52 PM »
Racing is a gambling game. There will never be a concert or naked women contest that will help.
Can’t hurt you have to try something especially a venue like the Meadowlands the vender’s are starving there.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2023, 12:36:31 PM »
maybe not but there has been and will be drag queens at the big m so all should be good

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2023, 12:39:06 PM »
also once again just to educate some of you
if in handouts you are referring to what the casinos pay to horseman that is incorrect wording

this is a rebate that the casino pay for being allowed to open on the sites of harness tracks and use their gambling license



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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2023, 12:39:44 PM »
Can’t hurt you have to try something especially a venue like the Meadowlands the vender’s are starving there.

The Meadowlands tries and has tried all that stuff for a long time. They still need welfare despite a sportsbook cause its all failed. Fix the gambling side is the only thing anyone should consider.

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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2023, 12:41:19 PM »
More drag shows will only support the hot dog vendors.
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Re: What does harness racing need---
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2023, 12:55:19 PM »
Competition is not what it used to be for the entertainment dollar. Tracks have to become more creative like incorporating concerts and things of that nature to the track. 

Can you imagine how many degenerate gamblers would leave their seats at Pocono or Yonkers for a wet T-shirt contest/bikini contest that actually paid for the top 5 held between races at the winners circle or in the winter in a section of the stands? If you had a contest between each race they would be hanging around the track watching racing.


What about Lance and his array of friends?  How do you entertain them??

 

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