What does harness racing need---

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Racing is a gambling game. There will never be a concert or naked women contest that will help.

Apparently you didn't know John Manzi.

[Gaagoots]

Apparently you didn't know John Manzi.

OMG how can I forget that Mike! He was great for Monti.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

also once again just to educate some of you
if in handouts you are referring to what the casinos pay to horseman that is incorrect wording

this is a rebate that the casino pay for being allowed to open on the sites of harness tracks and use their gambling license

Correct but don't try to tell that to knowitalls like Jackie Mo and Bitter Truth.

[Gaagoots]

What about Lance and his array of friends?  How do you entertain them??

Easy, bringing some transvestites lol.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

OMG how can I forget that Mike! He was great for Monti.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

If decoupling was so easy to achieve, every casino would be doing it.

[Stan durbread]

"In Pennsylvania, Gov. Tom Wolf is once again proposing to divert $199 million a year from slot-financed purses to provide higher-education scholarships for 20,000 students in a state with a crushing college debt load and high tuitions."

"Wolf’s agriculture secretary, Russell Redding, whose agency oversees the state’s three thoroughbred and three harness tracks, is impatient with that lament. “After a $3 billion investment, racing still isn’t stable. Why should we continue to invest?” he said in a recent interview."
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How did Wolf make out with that??  Horse racing still gets there fees and he is unemployed

[lost cause]

1) get these race cards done at 3 hours max

2)sorry but anything under a $! tri should be gone. rarely ever see big payouts

3)reduce number of multi race bets. the less options the bigger the pool

4)have race secretaries actually look at the races and use most competitve races in pic 4,daily double

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Decoupling is a separate issue. What PA has tried to do is use the tax on slots to pay for roads, bridges, and schools instead of racing so they do not need to increase taxes on the public.

I think what you and others fail to understand is the individual states and the individual casinos are not the be all end all decider of how things go down. Hypothetically, a racetrack can, when the contract between them and the sponsoring casino is up, not renew their joint venture and guess what happens? That casino has to shut down, as it can't operate without the shared usage gambling license that the RACETRACK/HORSEMEN own. Now yes, the probability of a racetrack severing ties with a casino may be slim but who knows? There are some tracks that are probably doing enough business to actually remain solvent without a casino. Northfield, Monticello and possibly Dover can probably go it alone. The point being that states need to not get too greedy when trying to divert money from the horsemen's coffers or they may force the hand of the horsemen to sever ties with the casino thus eliminating that tax.

[yonkersjeff]

                             
                               PUT ALL THE BONGIORNO'S IN JAIL !!!!!!!!

[rainman2]

                             
                               PUT ALL THE BONGIORNO'S IN JAIL !!!!!!!!

Since you’re not shy, who else???

[Stan durbread]

That is not how it works in PA. The horse racing development fund is a tax on slots play. The government decides what the money is used for. PA has a bunch of stand alone casinos and the harness tracks are owned by the casino companies. PA has already tried to divert the money. They just need a few more votes in the legislature.

The actual slots legislation says the money goes to the Agriculture Department to fund the horse racing sector in the state   The whole law would have to be rewritten. Which is why it hasn’t changed and the few that tried to steal the money all lost their reelection. The fool that wrote that opinion piece only used his narrative about out of state ownership. Never mentioned how much money from around the world flows into PA at the yearling sale

[Stan durbread]

If you actually live in PA and want lower taxes maybe you should think about voting against the state congress that gives themselves a 7.5% raise pretty much every year because of the inflation the Dumbacrates keep causing

[Brown jug]

cmon guys dont buy all this political bullshit
if politicians knew how to properly run their states it would not be an issue
they mismanage and piss away billions
but somehow trying to take money from harness racing is the savior

and by the way pa doesn't need another 20,000 students to go to school and get some bullshit degree that does them no good
send them to trade school to be a useful part of the economy

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

That is not how it works in PA. The horse racing development fund is a tax on slots play. The government decides what the money is used for. PA has a bunch of stand alone casinos and the harness tracks are owned by the casino companies. PA has already tried to divert the money. They just need a few more votes in the legislature.

At Pocono Downs, I don't think Mohegan Sun owns the race related property such as the track and the paddock and they don't own the gambling license which is why they can't dump racing.