Howard Taylor Sues Jeff Gural For Defamation

[Generation XYZ]

BOND I agree with your analysis of the argument.  Botton line is Taylor purchased the products knowingly, regardless of claiming he was unknowing.  Taylor is arguably an expert is skirting the truth in the matters at hand. The firm he chose is a prominent Phila. Firm with offices in several states.  But this is no deterrent for Gural. He can make the rules for his tracks.  Also if the list Gural presented is already a published document elsewhere. Then where is the defamation?

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Gural can ban Taylor because he wants to, no? But he can't just unconditionally say whatever he wants to about Taylor or what Taylor did, without possible ramifications, right?

[The Thorn]

On this forum, how does one "ignore" a poster??

Go to Profile at the top of any page, then click on Forum Profile. On the page that comes up the ignore option is under Modify Profile near the top of the page

[hot2trot]

gural gonna mop the floor with him   

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

From the comments I read on here, most would say a life-time ban would be in order. Therefore comparatively , a one year ban would be a slap on the wrist.

Are you that thick. The commissions and USTA have issued licenses to people that were proven horse killers as well as people that were convicted of attempted murder on HUMANS and you think they are going to give a lifetime ban for EPO? Just more overwhelming proof of why HISA needs to be enacted in harness racing.

[MR.DALRAE]

Everyday of the week

[Mailbox Money]

"If you brew it,they will use it! 💉💊💉💊💉💊💉💊!

[Mailbox Money]

Gural can ban Taylor because he wants to, no? But he can't just unconditionally say whatever he wants to about Taylor or what Taylor did, without possible ramifications, right?

I think that you have it correct!

[SeattleSlew]

Go to Profile at the top of any page, then click on Forum Profile. On the page that comes up the ignore option is under Modify Profile near the top of the page

Thx.

[boscoman]

         You would have to search the world to find a bigger bunch of morons than are on this thread.   You 🤡 clowns keep saying that Howard Taylor purchased performance enhancing drugs . Where is the proof ?   I guess on here you can say anything about anybody but in real life there has to be proof.   Receipts , Cancelled checks, Billing statements.  Have any of you half wits seen any of these things ?  The answer is no.      Do you imbeciles really think he would sue Gural if Gural had proof that he purchased EPO ? Newsflash !  There is no proof because he never purchased or distributed anything of any kind. 

[pocketrocketwinner]

         You would have to search the world to find a bigger bunch of morons than are on this thread.   You 🤡 clowns keep saying that Howard Taylor purchased performance enhancing drugs . Where is the proof ?   I guess on here you can say anything about anybody but in real life there has to be proof.   Receipts , Cancelled checks, Billing statements.  Have any of you half wits seen any of these things ?  The answer is no.      Do you imbeciles really think he would sue Gural if Gural had proof that he purchased EPO ? Newsflash !  There is no proof because he never purchased or distributed anything of any kind.

For the 3rd time, the evidence was submitted by states attorney of the southern district of NY, damian williams.

[boscoman]

For the millionth time,  how come there was no arrest ?   

[pocketrocketwinner]

For the millionth time,  how come there was no arrest ?

Of who? Fishman and his assistant and are behind bars as we speak based on this evidence. The attorney has not prosecuted the buyers of the illegal substances, yet. That doesn't mean these individuals should be allowed anywhere near a racetrack or animals in general.

[Miguel_Sanchez]

Hear is the one thing you are all missing.  Did Gural make the comment on camera?  Did he make it on radio?  Did he make it in a large group of people  where he could be overheard? NO!  He made it to a bonehead reporter.  Now we all know that the media can write or say anything they want.  They can mis quote 100% and nothing happens.  Donald Trump is mis quoted in the media.  He even says crazy shit in the media and guess what? You can't sue for defamation.  It's one person's opinion and that's it.  Just because I tell Generation XYZ that Ron Burke uses EPO it doesn't give Ron Burke the right to sue for defamation.  I don't care if Generation XYZ posts it on every forum in the universe "Harnessfan2023 said Ron Burke uses EPO" it doesn't mean shit.

All Howard Taylor is going to do is open a huge can of worms and cause a whole mess of problems for a lot of other people.  His racing days are finished and he's hitting the pannic button because he has no income as a lawyer.  He's already out looking for trainers who will testify for him and I can assure you anyone who is dumb enough to testify for him will be hung at the stake.  Testifying for him will only purger themselves at a later date.

Oh BTW the article that supposedly is the cause of all this was taken down within 12hrs after the post.  Probably because of a mis quote or discrepancy.  So you want to get 12 people on a jury to award you millions of dollars in damages for something that was up for 12hrs and you can't prove Gural said?  Good Luck on this one!

[hammer0419]

Later that day, Gural was quoted in Thoroughbred Racing News saying that Taylor “had to be giving EPO [Epogen] to his trainers to use and not a single trainer picked up the phone and said I have an owner who wants me to use EPO on his horses.”

That statement was untrue. No facts, in either the Meadowlands press release or the article, supported the claim that Taylor ever gave Epogen to any of his trainers or that Taylor ever instructed any trainer to use Epogen on his horses.