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PurpleSheetPicks

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2024, 04:15:22 PM »
By STAG PARTY p,2,1:50.4; 1:50.2f ($889,307) Sire of 8 in 2:00, 3 in 1:55 from 78 foals, 17 winners from 26 starters,
including: YOUR PARTY p,2,1:54.2 ($26,110), FLAG PARTY p,2,1:53.1 ($15,815), Ifthasritthatsron g p,2,1:54.2 ($12,848),
Manhawk p,2,1:58.2 ($9,887), LOVE ON ME (M) p,2,2:00.3h ($8,856), SCRAPPY (M) p,2,1:57.4h ($7,668),
Somepartysomewher e p,2,2:00h ($5,784), World Revival p,2,2:00.2h ($4,365), Walkin Stagger Out p,2,2:00.1h ($3,066),
Kenogami Heart (M) p,2,Q2:05.3h ($2,237).Total earnings of $116,643.

78 foals....none of them made it to 30k?? thats almost impossible

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2024, 04:18:11 PM »
Proposal...castra te the horse

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2024, 04:48:33 PM »
78 foals....none of them made it to 30k?? thats almost impossible
Thats from 2 or 3 crops. Only one that has raced. Definately not good. But not as bad as it looks.

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2024, 06:58:15 PM »
Betterthancheddar also.

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2024, 07:02:49 PM »
sportswriter a decent ontario sire in his day
american ideal a standout stud and broodmare sire even though handicapped being in new york
both were early gassie coleman days so might have avoided some of the "additives"

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2024, 08:17:51 PM »
RACE 2 - Dover Downs - DE - February 15, 2024
Conditions: NW $6,001 (DE $7,201) LAST 5 STARTS WINNERS FOR A PURSE > $15,500 SINCE 11/15/2023 N/E
Gait: Pace Purse: "7,500" Class: nw 6001L5 Distance: 1 mile Track Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 40-0
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
6    Stag Party    6    1°/1    1/1H    1/1T    1/4    1/4   1:52.0    27.4   *0.40     Tim Tetrick    Michael Hall
4    Blood Feud    4    2/1    2/1H    2/1T    2/4    2/4   1:52.4    28.1   17.40     Jim Morand    Wayne Givens
1    Last Gunfighter    1    3/2H    3/3    5/3    3/5    3/4Q   1:52.4    28.0   14.30     Montrell Teague    Joseph Columbo
8    Sir Charles Of Sky    8    8/10H    8/7H    8°/5H    4/6    4/5   1:53.0    27.4   16.70     Art Stafford Jr    Jason Johnson
2    King`s Cruiser    2    4/4    5/4Q    7/4H    5/6Q    5/5H   1:53.0    28.0   12.20     Anthony Morgan    Michael Rossi
7    Full Send    7    7/8H    7/6    6°/4    6/6H    6/5T   1:53.1    28.1   41.20     Corey Callahan    Eli Scott Jr
5    Advance Man    5    5/5H    4°/3Q    3°/1T    7/7H    7/7   1:53.2    28.4   3.30     Geo. Napolitano Jr    Crissy Crissman-Bier
3    Zippidy Zoom    3    6/7    6°/4H    4°°/2T    8/10H    8/11T   1:54.2    29.3   38.30     Simon Allard    Kathleen Brewer
Time:    27.1   56.2    (29.1)   1:24.1    (27.4)   1:52.0    (27.4)                                                        
1st   Stag Party  (8, H   Bettor`s Delight - My Lady Day - Western Ideal)
Registered Owner(s)/Lessee(s):  Let It Ride Stables Inc - FL, Bottom Line Racing LLC - FL, Hutt Racing Stable - PA, West Wins Stable - FL
Breeder(s):  Frederick Hertrich III - DE

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2024, 09:14:35 PM »
sportswriter a decent ontario sire in his day
american ideal a standout stud and broodmare sire even though handicapped being in new york
both were early gassie coleman days so might have avoided some of the "additives"

Casie didn't pick American Ideal as a baby and I could be wrong but I don't think she broke and trained at two?

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2024, 10:38:45 PM »
Casie didn't pick American Ideal as a baby and I could be wrong but I don't think she broke and trained at two?
You are correct.

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2024, 10:40:59 PM »
Horse was never good enough to be a sire. Nice little race horse though. Might as well race him. tmbz1

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2024, 07:49:39 AM »
Not on the big stage, no. He won only 1 start as a 3 year old.

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2024, 08:15:19 AM »
Not on the big stage, no. He won only 1 start as a 3 year old.

One win as a 3 year old !!!  Standing stud ????  There are some $20,000 claimers I would sooner breed too. Was there a shortage of yogurt??

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2024, 08:59:48 AM »
Betting Line last year averaged $15,352 at the sales

pretty low!   

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2024, 09:04:05 AM »
He was so so lame in his three year old season that a caring trainer would not have started him. But race he did and went fast. I'd be reluctant to write him off. He had a lot of foot, a fashionable pedigree and a ton of resolve.
He's not junk and he deserves a little compassion even if you chose to take your mares elsewhere.

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2024, 11:02:06 AM »
He was so so lame in his three year old season that a caring trainer would not have started him. But race he did and went fast. I'd be reluctant to write him off. He had a lot of foot, a fashionable pedigree and a ton of resolve.
He's not junk and he deserves a little compassion even if you chose to take your mares elsewhere.

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Re: Who are the connections on this dud of a stud?
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2024, 11:29:25 AM »
cassie did not train american ideal at 2 but she was trainer for his entire 3 yr old season which is when he made his mark

 

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