Per Engblom

[shotgunner]

You guys don't understand how this works. Remember etorphine, elephant juice? 1cc in a 1 liter jug. Pull out 1cc from the 1 liter jug inject horse.  That diluted amount is now a stimulant and pain killer not a tq..same with oxy, Dilaudid, fentanyl. Dilution has/had its advantages. Picogram testing just tells us we need to diluted more.

I dont think thats how those drugs work.......

But to clarify: these backstretch chemists some how found the correct dosage on these depressants to not only keep their pain killing properties, but also act as a stimulant enough so that it is actually performance enhancing to a large degree and some how make it through thousands of post race tests because the levels were undetectable (All are class 1 drugs, there are no allowed levels) and they only got busted because there wasn't drug testing machinery in the world sensitive enough to find it?

[Brkn Headpole]

Per's excuse is that they found "human" drugs in a horses system. I didn't know drugs can discriminate between what biological system they are in. It's not like any other drugs meant for humans have been used on horses.

[Generation XYZ]

Per's excuse is that they found "human" drugs in a horses system. I didn't know drugs can discriminate between what biological system they are in. It's not like any other drugs meant for humans have been used on horses.

Ahh yeah I said this already....

[wizardofoz]

There MUST be ZERO tolerance for ANY drug to be in a racehorse. ONLY THEN will these criminals who use them be brought to justice, which will level the playing field for the small stables.

[seen2much]

I remember hearing EPO could trigger a DEX positive. I wonder if the trainers are using something that triggers an OXY positive.

[Ramnap]

Please we heard out here that back east this guy has been using the JT wonder drug Filgrastim. or commonly known as Neutrogena out here . Lets see whats worse Oxy or the Neutro. Thats pretty messed up hes using this stuff out there. Lets see Gural take a solid position now.

So you are saying that somebody is using an immune system stimulant on their horses. That seems like a been there done that situation before many times.

[Generation XYZ]

So If I bust nuts on a hot groom's ass and it ends up in straw this could in theory cause a cialis positive?

[moelarrythecheese]

Ever heard of drug testing?

[Parked]

So If I bust nuts on a hot groom's ass and it ends up in straw this could in theory cause a cialis positive?

If they test the urine you might end up being the sire in a dna test.

[hoosierboy]

I find it amazing that these so-called trainers that get caught with a pharmacy of drugs in their horses feign ignorance and have NO IDEA how it happened! How dumb do these idiots think the betting public is?  These guys cannot even pronounce the names of the drugs that magically make their way into the bloodstreams of their racehorses! There are NO great trainers. They do NOT exist, and never did. It is all about using the latest undetectable medications out there from disreputable vets and chemists.  The top drivers are well aware of this and could care less, as all they are concerned with is making money any way they can.

Well said!  It doesn’t take 1 year to get test results sack this makes me wonder if Gural isn’t holding results back until he wants to lay the hammer for publicity

[Miguel_Sanchez]

Yea - why is it one yr before we know about this and there hasn't even been a split done yet?  Very suspicious.  Where is the full disclosure from NJ Racing Commission on this? 

[Ramnap]

If there is a split good chance of that year decomposing that sample.  So the original is tossed or decomposing and the split is worthless too. More corruption

[HarnessFan1981]

Positive test- post race
Horse:
MON AMOUR
Pharmaceuticals:
Meprobamate (Class 2), Oxycodone (Class 1) ,
Carisoprodol (Class 2)
Additional Details:
New Jersey Racing Commission (NJRC) licensee Per Engblom was the programmed trainer of the horse "Mon Amour" when he raced in the 6th race at the Meadowlands Racetrack on April 29, 2023 and finished in first place.
Following this race, "Mon Amour" was selected to submit post-race blood and urine samples for analysis. A report from Industrial Laboratories identified the presence of Oxycodone, Carisprodol and Meprobamate, a metabolite of Carisprodol.
At Mr. Engblom's request, split sample testing was performed at Texas A&M Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Laboratory, which is an approved independent laboratory.
These testing results did confirm the presence of Oxycodone, Carisprodol and its metabolite Meprobamate.
This is in direct violation of the rules and regulations of the New Jersey Racing Commission. An adminsitrative hearing was conducted on December 6, 2023 in the Judges office at the Meadowlands Racetrack to accept evidence and testimony regarding this matter. As a result of this hearing, the Board of Judges have determined that NJRC licensee Per Engblom was the programmed trainer of the horse "Mon Amour when he raced in the 6th race at the Meadowlands Racetrack on April 29, 2023 and the presence of these prohibited substances is in direct violation of N.J.A.C. 13:71-23.1, and N.J.A.C. 13:71-23.6. As a trainer licensed by the NJRC, Mr. Engblom is the absolute insurer of and responsible for the condition of a horse within his care and custody and shall not enter or start a horse that has in its body any drug or substance foreign to the natural horse. As a result of the evidence and testimony presented at the administrative hearing held on December 6, 2023 regarding the post-race positive test from the horse "Mon Amour" for the drug Oxycodone on April 29, 2023, Mr. Engblom is hereby issued a full suspension of his NJRC license for a period of one year (365 days). Said suspension shall begin on March 15, 2024 and run through March 14, 2025 inclusive.
Fined: $ 6,000
• Full suspension - 380 days:
03/15/2024 - 03/29/2025

[Mailbox Money]

What is the over/under of days that he is actually prohibited from racing? I   will say that he will be cut free after 30 days.

[Ramnap]

The only reason anybody could get away with this is the simple fact that contamination is possible and has happened. That being said you now as a trainer know that you just dilute a little more till they stop detecting. It's not the trainers who are coming up with this stuff, but they are the connections to the owners who push this to their trainers. It's an entire network. Most often the owner has a better connection to certain performance enhancing pushing vets and order things done to horses the trainer would rather not have done.