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Stan durbread

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Re: TRUMP CRIMINAL TRIAL POLL
« Reply #270 on: June 01, 2024, 01:21:01 AM »
Before you waste your money remember this is the only trial in history of US that the jury instructions were. “”It doesn’t have to be unanimous, no matter what the constitution says”

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« Reply #271 on: June 01, 2024, 01:29:15 AM »
Don’t care about bullshit media if you believe that you can make an easy $30

I already bet one Trump supporter on Twitter two years ago, $100 Trump gets indicted on multiple counts. That person the day after Trump was indicted, said it was not a real indictment and it doesn't count. He refused to pay and blocked me. Before doing so he said he would come and kick my ass.

I DM'ed him and gave him my address and when I asked him why he had not shown up, that was when he said, "Here's my address in Tahoe, why don't you show up and try and collect, I'll introduce you to my gun".  I told him he better not miss or I would shove said gun up his ass. That was when he blocked me.

All that POS had to do was say he lost the bet and been cordial about it and I would have accepted that and even told him if he was that short of money to keep it.


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« Reply #272 on: June 01, 2024, 01:32:06 AM »
Before you waste your money remember this is the only trial in history of US that the jury instructions were. “”It doesn’t have to be unanimous, no matter what the constitution says”


WRONG. Read the statute. Here's the basics of it

Merchan instructed the jurors Wednesday that they "must conclude unanimously that a defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means," adding that they "need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were."

That means that jurors have to agree unanimously that Trump committed a crime by engaging in a criminal conspiracy to falsify records with the intent to commit one or more other crimes to convict him. But jurors can choose from three options about what those other crimes were: violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act, falsification of other business records or violation of tax laws. Those "unlawful means" aren't charges themselves, and they wouldn't result in separate convictions, so jurors don't have to unanimously agree on them.

The jury instruction was complex and nuanced, and some right-wing accounts ran with false reports.

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Re: TRUMP CRIMINAL TRIAL POLL
« Reply #273 on: June 01, 2024, 03:39:18 AM »
It's really become sad so many people got way too attached in an unhealthy way to a guy who honestly doesn't give 2 shits about them. Not only that but they have NOTHING in common with Trump other than they all must hate minorities.
Just like in Srar Wars, hate is a powerful emotion. Bonding yourselves to a lifelong loser liar, rapist, and now felon says a lot more about you than Trump.
If you were real conservative values folks there's no way you'd go within 1 length of the guy. He ran up $8 TRILLION in debt, bankrupted his own companies 5 or 6 times, sold fraudulent steaks, water, bibles, and lots of other junk.
If Trump dies tomorrow, and whatever is left of the GOP drafts Nikki Haley, she might win in November. She's 10x the politician Trump is.
But, have it your way and flush yourselves down the golden toilet with Trump.

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« Reply #274 on: June 01, 2024, 07:51:51 AM »
It's really become sad so many people got way too attached in an unhealthy way to a guy who honestly doesn't give 2 shits about them. Not only that but they have NOTHING in common with Trump other than they all must hate minorities.
Just like in Srar Wars, hate is a powerful emotion. Bonding yourselves to a lifelong loser liar, rapist, and now felon says a lot more about you than Trump.
If you were real conservative values folks there's no way you'd go within 1 length of the guy. He ran up $8 TRILLION in debt, bankrupted his own companies 5 or 6 times, sold fraudulent steaks, water, bibles, and lots of other junk.
If Trump dies tomorrow, and whatever is left of the GOP drafts Nikki Haley, she might win in November. She's 10x the politician Trump is.
But, have it your way and flush yourselves down the golden toilet with Trump.
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Re: TRUMP CRIMINAL TRIAL POLL
« Reply #275 on: June 01, 2024, 08:43:45 AM »
1 capital police officer died of a heart attack. 5 protesters died from abusive force. Again where were the democrats when 1000s of businesses got burnt up because the snowflakes didn’t like a verdict?????  Keep believing CNN for every word they say.

Sorry to reprt to you many went to jail.  Again did they try to stop the certifying of a presidential election at the bequest of a ex President.  You can spin it all you want but it is not the same. 

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« Reply #276 on: June 01, 2024, 09:47:41 AM »
It's really become sad so many people got way too attached in an unhealthy way to a guy who honestly doesn't give 2 shits about them. Not only that but they have NOTHING in common with Trump other than they all must hate minorities.
Just like in Srar Wars, hate is a powerful emotion. Bonding yourselves to a lifelong loser liar, rapist, and now felon says a lot more about you than Trump.
If you were real conservative values folks there's no way you'd go within 1 length of the guy. He ran up $8 TRILLION in debt, bankrupted his own companies 5 or 6 times, sold fraudulent steaks, water, bibles, and lots of other junk.
If Trump dies tomorrow, and whatever is left of the GOP drafts Nikki Haley, she might win in November. She's 10x the politician Trump is.
But, have it your way and flush yourselves down the golden toilet with Trump.

Correct.  Take, for example crowd size. It’s so important to them, even going so far as posting phony photos of Trump crowds on X.  I have never shown up at a political rally for any candidate.  But I always vote- sometimes Democratic, sometimes Republican, but I don’t let crowd size influence my decision.

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« Reply #277 on: June 01, 2024, 09:54:49 AM »
Another Maga Maniac busted:

Right-wing media company Salem apologizes, stops distributing 2020 election conspiracy film ‘2000 Mules’ after lawsuit

Salem Media Group, the right-wing talk radio network owner, issued a public apology and said it would stop distributing a discredited 2020 election conspiracy theory film after a Georgia man wrongly accused of voter fraud sued the company for defamation.

The Georgia man, Mark Andrews, said in his 2022 lawsuit that “2000 Mules,” a film and book by far-right activist Dinesh D’Souza contained a string of bogus claims about the 2020 election, leading to threats of violence against him and his family.

Andrews said the film, which has been repeatedly promoted by Donald Trump and widely circulated in right-wing media as supposed proof that the 2020 election was stolen, had severely damaged his reputation.

“It was never our intent that the publication of the 2000 Mules film and book would harm Mr. Andrews,” Salem said in a Friday statement. “We apologize for the hurt the inclusion of Mr. Andrews’ image in the movie, book, and promotional materials have caused Mr. Andrews and his family.”

“We have removed the film from Salem’s platforms, and there will be no future distribution of the film or the book by Salem,” the right-wing company added.

The apology from Salem came as part of a larger settlement to the lawsuit filed by Andrews. A representative for Protect Democracy, a nonprofit group that sued Salem on behalf of Andrews, did not comment on the terms of the settlement. Neither did a representative for Salem.

Salem operates a national talk radio network, distributing the programs of several prominent pro-Trump personalities such as Charlie Kirk and Sebastian Gorka, to more than 2,700 affiliates. It also owns dozens of Christian-format radio stations and the right-wing political website Townhall.

In the “2000 Mules” film, Andrews was featured on video with his face blurred depositing his ballot, along with those belonging to his family, into a drop box in what the film purported was a so-called “mule” operation.

“What you are seeing is a crime,” a voiceover from D’Souza declared. “These are fraudulent votes.”

Salem said in its Friday statement that it “relied on representations” that D’Souza had made.

“We have learned that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has cleared Mr. Andrews of illegal voting activity in connection with the event depicted in 2000 Mules,” the company said.

In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Trump’s media allies promoted false claims that the election had been stolen by then-candidate Joe Biden. While the claims were false, polls have indicated that the lies were effective, convincing the majority of the Republican Party that Biden’s election was illegitimate.

Those election lies, however, have led to legal consequences for outlets that promoted the claims, with right-wing media companies facing a slew of costly lawsuits stemming from their coverage of the 2020 election. Last month, the pro-Trump network One America News settled a lawsuit brought by voting technology company Smartmatic over the outlet’s promotion of lies about the 2020 election. And last year, Fox News settled a historic $787 million defamation lawsuit filed by election company Dominion Voting Systems.

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« Reply #278 on: June 01, 2024, 10:23:08 AM »

WRONG. Read the statute. Here's the basics of it

Merchan instructed the jurors Wednesday that they "must conclude unanimously that a defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means," adding that they "need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were."

That means that jurors have to agree unanimously that Trump committed a crime by engaging in a criminal conspiracy to falsify records with the intent to commit one or more other crimes to convict him. But jurors can choose from three options about what those other crimes were: violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act, falsification of other business records or violation of tax laws. Those "unlawful means" aren't charges themselves, and they wouldn't result in separate convictions, so jurors don't have to unanimously agree on them.

The jury instruction was complex and nuanced, and some right-wing accounts ran with false reports.

So in layman’s terms. You don’t have to agree on what crime he may have violated but any crime you think he might of will do to convict. So now they can convict you of conspiracy without anything illegal ever happening. Makes sense too me

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« Reply #279 on: June 01, 2024, 11:05:52 AM »
Let’s see how confident all you Libtards are.
I’m going at this alone so will keep the numbers low

Anyone who wants to wager $10   I’ll take Trump for president in 2024, but I also want a $20 wager that I say Trump wins all these cases on appeal. Nice little gentleman bets to see if any of you know anything about the law b

I will take both bets 10 plus 20 for the $ 30 total. My side Trump loses in 2024 and all 34 counts must be overturned on appeal.

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« Reply #280 on: June 01, 2024, 02:45:23 PM »
Trump convicted on 34 counts
Eric Bolling, a serial gaslighter and liar FIRED! from NEWSMAX
"2000 Mules" thoroughly discredited and DiSouza facing mega defamation lawsuit

When does the winning stop in MAGA land this week?

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Re: TRUMP CRIMINAL TRIAL POLL
« Reply #281 on: June 01, 2024, 02:50:11 PM »
I will take both bets 10 plus 20 for the $ 30 total. My side Trump loses in 2024 and all 34 counts must be overturned on appeal.

Done.

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« Reply #282 on: June 01, 2024, 03:56:55 PM »
I will take both bets 10 plus 20 for the $ 30 total. My side Trump loses in 2024 and all 34 counts must be overturned on appeal.
Sent you a DM so we can connect after this settles out

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« Reply #283 on: June 01, 2024, 04:59:57 PM »
Another Maga Maniac busted:

Right-wing media company Salem apologizes, stops distributing 2020 election conspiracy film ‘2000 Mules’ after lawsuit

Salem Media Group, the right-wing talk radio network owner, issued a public apology and said it would stop distributing a discredited 2020 election conspiracy theory film after a Georgia man wrongly accused of voter fraud sued the company for defamation.

The Georgia man, Mark Andrews, said in his 2022 lawsuit that “2000 Mules,” a film and book by far-right activist Dinesh D’Souza contained a string of bogus claims about the 2020 election, leading to threats of violence against him and his family.

Andrews said the film, which has been repeatedly promoted by Donald Trump and widely circulated in right-wing media as supposed proof that the 2020 election was stolen, had severely damaged his reputation.

“It was never our intent that the publication of the 2000 Mules film and book would harm Mr. Andrews,” Salem said in a Friday statement. “We apologize for the hurt the inclusion of Mr. Andrews’ image in the movie, book, and promotional materials have caused Mr. Andrews and his family.”

“We have removed the film from Salem’s platforms, and there will be no future distribution of the film or the book by Salem,” the right-wing company added.

The apology from Salem came as part of a larger settlement to the lawsuit filed by Andrews. A representative for Protect Democracy, a nonprofit group that sued Salem on behalf of Andrews, did not comment on the terms of the settlement. Neither did a representative for Salem.

Salem operates a national talk radio network, distributing the programs of several prominent pro-Trump personalities such as Charlie Kirk and Sebastian Gorka, to more than 2,700 affiliates. It also owns dozens of Christian-format radio stations and the right-wing political website Townhall.

In the “2000 Mules” film, Andrews was featured on video with his face blurred depositing his ballot, along with those belonging to his family, into a drop box in what the film purported was a so-called “mule” operation.

“What you are seeing is a crime,” a voiceover from D’Souza declared. “These are fraudulent votes.”

Salem said in its Friday statement that it “relied on representations” that D’Souza had made.

“We have learned that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has cleared Mr. Andrews of illegal voting activity in connection with the event depicted in 2000 Mules,” the company said.

In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Trump’s media allies promoted false claims that the election had been stolen by then-candidate Joe Biden. While the claims were false, polls have indicated that the lies were effective, convincing the majority of the Republican Party that Biden’s election was illegitimate.

Those election lies, however, have led to legal consequences for outlets that promoted the claims, with right-wing media companies facing a slew of costly lawsuits stemming from their coverage of the 2020 election. Last month, the pro-Trump network One America News settled a lawsuit brought by voting technology company Smartmatic over the outlet’s promotion of lies about the 2020 election. And last year, Fox News settled a historic $787 million defamation lawsuit filed by election company Dominion Voting Systems.

Let me ask you a question. In November when I show up with a truck load of ballots all voting for trump and drop them in a ballot box. Are you going to be okay with that?  I still have 1 sitting on my desk for the former owner of my house that died 5 years ago.  For the primary maybe I should have filled it out and voted

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« Reply #284 on: June 01, 2024, 06:11:48 PM »
Let me ask you a question. In November when I show up with a truck load of ballots all voting for trump and drop them in a ballot box. Are you going to be okay with that?  I still have 1 sitting on my desk for the former owner of my house that died 5 years ago.  For the primary maybe I should have filled it out and voted

So you believe the BS in that movie?  It should have been named 2000 Maga morons.  It doesn’t bother you that Trump is trying to destroy this country by always claiming the judicial system is rigged in every single instance?  Every single time he never says he’s wrong and never apologizes.  He’s so perfect in every single instance. 
If it comes out that he gave secret info to Putin or other dictators, would you still vote for him?

 

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