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[MIKE CAMPBELL]

EPO is given sub Q, not IV

[helpplease]

No I cannot confirm that all drugs given intravenously cannot be ever detected in a urine sample. DPO and like drugs are injected unlike oxycontin, cocaine, fentanyl (has various methods of delivery) which have been tried to use as excuses for contamination because they can be absorbed through coming in contact with said drugs.

As for trace amounts of a drug not affecting performance. The test finds a trace amount but that was after "x" number of half lives.

For example , say someone administered a drug 3 days out with a 2 hr half life. You would have 1.455192e9 or .000000001445192 left of the original amount of N=100. Is that a trace amount?

Again say someone gave a horse 2 days out of oxycontin 10 mgs which has an approx half live of 3 hrs. You would have  0.000152588 left of the original dosage by the time the test picks it up.

That is why I say you can estimate based on a range but would need further evidence to nail it down.

OK then with that explanation I will keep the trace amount on my list of possibilities' thanks. I am hoping one of his grooms was unfortunately being prescribed DPO or someone in the test barn or detention barn. PS: Mike Campbell is saying the drug is administered sub Q. I personally have no idea & maybe you are both right? 

[The Thorn]

Again say someone gave a horse 2 days out of oxycontin 10 mgs which has an approx half live of 3 hrs. You would have  0.000152588 left of the original dosage by the time the test picks it up.

I get what the poster is saying but to be technical Oxycontin is continuous release over 12 hours so wouldn't the half life be longer?  Oxycodone is what he is talking about I believe.

[HarnessFan1981]

Woooo lol

Approved trainer transfers to Greg McNair from Richard Moreau. Flyingevenbettor N, Gigondas, Hungry Man, Hungry to Succeed, Kopi Luwak, Mr Ibinza, Patriarch Hanover, Reactor Now A, Stormalong, Wheels on Fire, Nasey, Stay Cool Hanover.

Approved trainer transfers to Claude Cadieux from Richard Moreau.
Gaines Hanover, Right Here Hanover, Aquinas Hanover, and Damsel Seelster.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Gaines Hanover had long been trained by Moreau in Canada and Claude Cadieux in the US (including the Hambo). Ironic since Cadieux has long plied his trade in Canada, mostly training for Jean Yves Blais.

In addition, Cadieux was referenced in the below article on the Slaughterhouse Six:

https://canadianhorsedefencecoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/slaughterhouse-six1.pdf

[HarnessFan1981]

More trainer changes

The following trainer transfers are approved from Richard Moreau:
• Gregg McNair – Style For A Mile, Bettorstopmenow
• Vern Cochrane – Epic Dreamer
• Chantal Mitchell – Ladycorona
• Eric Nadeau – Fashion Frenzie
• Shayne Barrington – Cadillac, The Turning Point
• Raphael Bourassa – Ladysmith
• Rene Bourassa – Thrilling Times
• Malik Smith – Somewherentuscany, Bad Eye Bill

[njracer]

EPO is given sub Q, not IV

EPO is given IV, Aranesp is given subq

[Grandstand Handicapper]

More trainer changes

The following trainer transfers are approved from Richard Moreau:
• Gregg McNair – Style For A Mile, Bettorstopmenow
• Vern Cochrane – Epic Dreamer
• Chantal Mitchell – Ladycorona
• Eric Nadeau – Fashion Frenzie
• Shayne Barrington – Cadillac, The Turning Point
• Raphael Bourassa – Ladysmith
• Rene Bourassa – Thrilling Times
• Malik Smith – Somewherentuscany, Bad Eye Bill

Approved is approved, and I am sure this is not going to be a rubber-stamp thing. So here are a few ties...McNair is legit as they come. Been around the game for a long time. Well liked and well respected. Both Moreau and Louis-Philippe Roy were protegees of Leo and Jean Tourigny. When Roy had a stable, he used to send (older) horses to Chantal Mitchell. He kept the younger horses, and hired Eric Nadeau to be his head trainer. Rene Bourassa, if it's the one I thinking of, is part of the infamous Bourassa family. Raphael trained for Determination at one point. Incestuous? LOL.

[Ramone]

Raphael trained for Determination at one point.

Nope

[London]

Nope

nope. Ralph is Rene son....

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Nope

Actually, he did. Obviously he wasn't the guy. I don't know if Godin sent him a few, some cast-off's, or what, but I remember seeing a few that were for sale, specifically a Prestidigitator colt named First Digit.

[Parked]

dont worry, more to follow

I’m sure there were Canadian on the list of buyers the FBI has.  Has anything been done in Cannahada with those ?.   

[Parked]

Actually, he did. Obviously he wasn't the guy. I don't know if Godin sent him a few, some cast-off's, or what, but I remember seeing a few that were for sale, specifically a Prestidigitator colt named First Digit.

I don’t think Moreau was taking anyones “cast offs”….

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I don’t think Moreau was taking anyones “cast offs”….

Moreau wasn't training for Godin. Luc Blais was.