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Over racing 2yo's?
« on: August 08, 2024, 04:51:03 PM »
Why would someone race a 2yo 5 times in 9 days?  4 are just fair races but still seems like a lot.

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2024, 05:04:57 PM »
Nick Clegg comes to mind. Greed would be the answer. ;D

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2024, 05:23:48 PM »
Nick Clegg was a bum in Illinois and even a bigger bum in Ohio. His trainer is a bumette as well.

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2024, 05:52:35 PM »
I never raced a 2 yr old more than 14 times, and did alright. I protected them, took all the money I could get. while teaching them to be race horses.  Lots of people chasing dream of great 2 yr old's. My partners never complained, we were never scared to sell, and hope they'd come back again. But now these things are sent every start, how many don't come back, or come back like TCI. They talk about racing older horses, but look at the stakes programs.

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2024, 05:55:41 PM »
I’ve never seen anyone race a 2yr old like the Clegg, other than that one guy who was actually a vet. I don’t understand why you would be so hard on a 2yr old. Especially some of those fair races that go for no money.

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2024, 06:19:53 PM »
On 8/2 Clegg' s Pink Panther had raced 6 times in two weeks and was about to race again at Scioto on three days rest. Fortunately the poor horse was scratched right before the race. I think the judges saw the program.

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2024, 07:07:51 PM »
It is in fact a Clegg horse.

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And the article about their stable seemed very braggy.  Makes it tough to cheer for them in my book. 
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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2024, 07:18:16 PM »
Horse won for fun today at Jefferson fair. He races everywhere. Winning gobs of fair races.
 That is clear up in northeast corner of Ohio. Races afternoon and evening. Stuffing these
 entry boxes.Often multiple entries in 4-5-6 horse fields. Drives them aggressively.

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2024, 07:21:08 PM »
And in again on Saturday!  Maybe take it a training mile tomorrow.  ngc3

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2024, 07:29:42 PM »
I never raced a 2 yr old more than 14 times, and did alright. I protected them, took all the money I could get. while teaching them to be race horses.  Lots of people chasing dream of great 2 yr old's. My partners never complained, we were never scared to sell, and hope they'd come back again. But now these things are sent every start, how many don't come back, or come back like TCI. They talk about racing older horses, but look at the stakes programs.

How long ago was this?

Is 8-10 starts more appropriate today because of the speed today??

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2024, 07:37:09 PM »
It is in fact a Clegg horse.

Downbytheparade

And the article about their stable seemed very braggy.  Makes it tough to cheer for them in my book.

Raced 08/02
Raced 08/05
Raced 08/06
Raced today 08/08
Racing 08/10

Simply ridiculous

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2024, 07:45:56 PM »
Why would someone race a 2yo 5 times in 9 days?  4 are just fair races but still seems like a lot.

Before harness racing like the rest of the world went woke, two year olds could race twice in one night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwUV3GVOehw

It did not seem to hurt Nihilator as a three year old.


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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2024, 10:58:21 PM »
When did Nihilator ever go two heats as a two yr old?

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2024, 12:33:40 AM »
When did Nihilator ever go two heats as a two yr old?

Here's the answer!

The $772,500 Breeders Crown Two-Year-Old Colt Pace was conducted in same-night heats and was an epic race, with the hype extremely high, especially for a race involving two-year-olds.

 Published: October 11, 2014 05:14 pm EDT
This Sunday, October 12, marks the 30th anniversary of one of harness racing's most remembered races. An upset that both shocked the masses and helped put a brand new championship series on the map.

An undefeated pacing colt by the name of Nihilator came into the first ever Breeders Crown for two-year-old pacing colts. It was just the third event in the Breeders Crown series to be contested. Perfect in 11 starts, Nihilator was trained by the legendary Billy Haughton and driven by Bill O'Donnell.

Facing Nihilator was Dragons Lair. Trained and driven by Jeff Mallet, Dragons Lair was no slouch. In fact, the son of Tyler B was a world champion over a five-eighths mile track. The race was being held at Dragons Lair's home track, The Meadows.

The Breeders Crown was contested in heats, with Nihilator winning the first heat over Dragons Lair in 1:54.3f, better than Dragons Lair's 1:55.4f mark. The other heat was won by Pershing Square in 1:56f.

Coming back for the final, it was expected that Nihilator would roll to his 13th straight win. Dragons Lair and Jeff Mallet had other ideas.

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Re: Over racing 2yo's?
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2024, 06:19:54 AM »
When did Nihilator ever go two heats as a two yr old?

The link I posted was the second heat. It was the Breeders Crown. Nihilator also raced heats as a three yer old.

 

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