Karl...in to go...

[Loaded_Syringe]

Karl does NOT win the Hambo if his and Highland Kismet's trips are reversed...

[Papillon]

Karl does NOT win the Hambo if his and Highland Kismet's trips are reversed...

Same for Sig Sauer

blocked multiple times in pocket

[jupiter]

That's the way the trips go, woulda, coulda, shouida, didn't

[Papillon]

That's the way the trips go, woulda, coulda, shouida, didn't

agree--but when "the greatest trotter ever" trips out and was 3/5--and favored to win the Hambletonian for over 18 months--that tells a deeper story

Karl isnt close to the greatest ever and two horses in that race had brutal trips and would have won with Karl's trip

yes-woulda, coulda, shoulda for sure--but lets not forget what we all saw

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Karl does NOT win the Hambo if his and Highland Kismet's trips are reversed...

There's no doubt about that. Without question, completely agree. I don't think intellect would argue that Karl got the perfect trip and YG drove a picture perfect race. Did the race fall into YG's lap? Did YG guarantee himself a second over trip the moment he took in? All the subjectives and hypotheticals aside-----IMO HK was the best horse in that race. I liked HK from day one, and he did all the dirty work (no pun intended as it was pretty nasty out there, LOL) and gave the trip to Karl. No choice really. People will argue all day long "the best horse won the race" or "the best horse finished second" and so on. Personally, I don't think the best horse that day won the race, but the Hambo trophy and the purse check says different, LOL.

Side note-----did you see what HK did when Karl got right to him in deep stretch? Rhetorical question.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

agree--but when "the greatest trotter ever" trips out and was 3/5--and favored to win the Hambletonian for over 18 months--that tells a deeper story

Karl isnt close to the greatest ever and two horses in that race had brutal trips and would have won with Karl's trip

yes-woulda, coulda, shoulda for sure--but lets not forget what we all saw

Absolutely agree. Well said.

[The Thorn]

Dude you just agreed with yourself and gave yourself props for saying it.    

[PIGLAND]

i think yannick ruined karl

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Dude you just agreed with yourself and gave yourself props for saying it.    

I can't tell which post is for the "quote" so I always hit the wrong post to quote...thanks... just fixed it.

[The Thorn]

5 minutes to go. Opened at 1/9  Will we see that world record?  Already been 3 sub 50 miles today and 2 were by 2 year old colts. 

Won easy but not enough speed to the half.

[Bitter Truth]

Sub 1:50 Sub 1:49 Guess not. He 'WILL' lose again if he keeps racing.
Might be time to pull the plug to protect his record and reputation.

[TimTimTimbo]

Sub 1:50 Sub 1:49 Guess not. He 'WILL' lose again if he keeps racing.
Might be time to pull the plug to protect his record and reputation.

I think that The Hambo took a lot out of him, and they had no intention of going for the record today. I still think he's a great horse but I also think he would be even better if Ake had him. Nancy and Yimmy can't hold a candle to this guy but that is IMO. Karl looked to have a lot left and he certainly should have but that field was not exactly strong.

I think we will see him go for the record next time he races there.

I was really impressed with Highland Kismet and he will only get better and better.

[Bitter Truth]

29.0 3rd qtr Yes I'm thinking he should have something left. Sure he can go more.
There will come a time, he'll get stung and they'll pounce and push him and they'll be
layin in the weeds and clean him clock. That's 'IF' he keeps racing.

[TimTimTimbo]

29.0 3rd qtr Yes I'm thinking he should have something left. Sure he can go more.
There will come a time, he'll get stung and they'll pounce and push him and they'll be
layin in the weeds and clean him clock. That's 'IF' he keeps racing.

Yeah, that was a shitty last Q

[shotgunner]

I think that The Hambo took a lot out of him, and they had no intention of going for the record today. I still think he's a great horse but I also think he would be even better if Ake had him. Nancy and Yimmy can't hold a candle to this guy but that is IMO. Karl looked to have a lot left and he certainly should have but that field was not exactly strong.

I think we will see him go for the record next time he races there.

I was really impressed with Highland Kismet and he will only get better and better.

I thought that was the best he’s looked since the Breeders Crown last year.
I’m not convinced they will go for the speed record.

I think he’s too talented to try and out sprint like they did today. I think if someone can get the lead and push him through the far turn while he’s first up instead of yielding at the half, he’s going to be in trouble late in the lane because if he starts drifting in like he did in the Hambo or any of his races last year at the red mile, Yannick will have to check him and kill his momentum.
Iirc that’s how TCI beat him last year. Likely there won’t be enough talent or money on the line until the KYSS finals (maybe) or the breeders crown for someone to actually try and challenge him.