UGH OH - super horse Karl beat

[rainman2]

is that the best you have? 

Same playbook over and over again, isn't it!

He saves his best for me!

What can I tell you!

LAY DOWN MIKE, PLEASE LAY DOWN!!

[SDST2009]

I suppose Mike thinks Legendary Hanover is or will be remembered as the greatest pacer ever since he went in 146.2 at the Meadowlands this year. And I suppose Bulldog Hanover is the greatest of all time.. what a joke

Not to mention Homicide Hunter who by MC's standards would have blown right by Karl by nearly 10 lengths.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Not to mention Homicide Hunter who by MC's standards would have blown right by Karl by nearly 10 lengths.

Another idiot that doesn't know how to read. No wonder the Country is in trouble.

[SDST2009]

Another idiot that doesn't know how to read. No wonder the Country is in trouble.

You're right. My comprehension is the one lacking. You, when asked how much credence you give to newer race bikes:

"ZERO. Too many unknowns. I am rating based on fact and the only fact is the teletimer. You geniuses can base your rating on conjecture such as surface, drugs, equipment, driver, etc."

If "the only fact is the teletimer," find the lie in my statement.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

You're right. My comprehension is the one lacking. You, when asked how much credence you give to newer race bikes:

"ZERO. Too many unknowns. I am rating based on fact and the only fact is the teletimer. You geniuses can base your rating on conjecture such as surface, drugs, equipment, driver, etc."

If "the only fact is the teletimer," find the lie in my statement.

Find it yourself. Prove to everyone that you aren't as stupid as I know you are.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Are you insane.. John Campbell when I personally spoke to him said Mack Lobell was the greatest he ever drove. You are clock watching to much.. is Karl faster then those greats of the past. Yes because of evolution and breeding like you mentioned... It comes down to resume against the competition you faced during each horses era. Karl could not even win a sire stakes final  with a perfect trip LOL..  if he races at 4 and wins 13 out of 15 than I'll eat my words but I would be shocked if that happens

Another fucking idiot that apparently can't read. I never said Mack Lobell wasn't a great horse. You personally talked to JC who said he is the greatest horse he has ever driven. That may be true but he never said Mack Lobell was the fastest horse he has ever driven which has been my point from the beginning but morons like you spin things your way. Who's insane jerkoff?

[rainman2]

You're right. My comprehension is the one lacking. You, when asked how much credence you give to newer race bikes:

"ZERO. Too many unknowns. I am rating based on fact and the only fact is the teletimer. You geniuses can base your rating on conjecture such as surface, drugs, equipment, driver, etc."

If "the only fact is the teletimer," find the lie in my statement.

I believe winning on all size tracks is greater than only on 2-turn tracks!

Winning the big race(s) in Europe is greater than not getting there at all!

3.9 million (1988) dollars is greater than 1.8 million (2024) dollars!

I guess some people don't know better even if it right in front of them!

Your comprehension is fine!  You're dealing with someone who can't see the forest from the trees and who doesn't know when to lay down too!

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I believe winning on all size tracks is greater than only on 2-turn tracks!

Winning the big race(s) in Europe is greater than not getting there at all!

3.9 million (1988) dollars is greater than 1.8 million (2024) dollars!

I guess some people don't know better even if it right in front of them!

Your comprehension is fine!  You're dealing with someone who can't see the forest from the trees and who doesn't know when to lay down too!

So, you're comparing truly all-time greats----Varenne, Ourasi, Moni Maker, Mack Lobell----with Karl. And, in doing so, you are looking at everything, all factors taken into consideration, everything possible........a nd then, you are comparing that to an argument that is ONLY looking at the teletimer, as the ONLY fact, and on that one factor, that one factor, picks the best horse? I think your time is better spent elsewhere. Actually, let me rephrase that; I think your time is better spent anywhere else. LOL.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

The teletimer is the only FACT when judging a horse's performance. I need a good laugh. Name something else factual and not subjective about judging the performance of a racehorse.

[pocketrocketwinner]

The teletimer is the only FACT when judging a horse's performance. I need a good laugh. Name something else factual and not subjective about judging the performance of a racehorse.

Do you also directly compare pitchers of today versus the early 1900's? Cause if you only go by the factual earned run average, the 50 best pitchers in the history of baseball (except Mariano rivera) all just happened to pitch before 1950. Point being, things change.

[JT]

The teletimer is the only FACT when judging a horse's performance. I need a good laugh. Name something else factual and not subjective about judging the performance of a racehorse.

I would say earnings and the number of starts with firsts seconds and thirds would absolutely matter and are FACTS What are you on the Takter's payroll to promote this slightly above average horse who isn't even the best 3 year old in his own state.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Do you also directly compare pitchers of today versus the early 1900's? Cause if you only go by the factual earned run average, the 50 best pitchers in the history of baseball (except Mariano rivera) all just happened to pitch before 1950. Point being, things change.

Is ERA the deciding factor when judging the 50 best pitchers? There are many facts in baseball. In fact, it is a game of stats. Maybe strikeouts should be used. Maybe win -loss record should be used. Maybe WHIP should be used. Horse racing only has one fact which is time of the race.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

I would say earnings and the number of starts with firsts seconds and thirds would absolutely matter and are FACTS What are you on the Takter's payroll to promote this slightly above average horse who isn't even the best 3 year old in his own state.

He was bred in NJ you fool.

[JT]

He was bred in NJ you fool.

I understand that but what sire stakes program did he race in and lose the final in.. I'll give you a clue it starts with  a K and ends in a y

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

I understand that but what sire stakes program did he race in and lose the final in.. I'll give you a clue it starts with  a K and ends in a y

Which one did he win?