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Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« on: September 17, 2024, 08:26:57 AM »
This race is turning into a joke....allowing 4 Determination horses in the race.  The race is already for the Elitists and being subsidized by the other horsemen, as half the purse is coming out of the pool money of overnight races.  Why doesn't Determination just put up his own $1,000,000 dollars and race 10 of his own horses against each other. Then he can say he won a million dollar race because apparently he wants to really badly.  This isn't good for racing or the betting public. An absolute joke.

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2024, 09:22:18 AM »
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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2024, 09:37:47 AM »
This race is turning into a joke....allowing 4 Determination horses in the race.  The race is already for the Elitists and being subsidized by the other horsemen, as half the purse is coming out of the pool money of overnight races.  Why doesn't Determination just put up his own $1,000,000 dollars and race 10 of his own horses against each other. Then he can say he won a million dollar race because apparently he wants to really badly.  This isn't good for racing or the betting public. An absolute joke.


Nothing comes out of the purse account. Ever spot cost 100,000.00, so if Determination wants to buy 4 spots who cares

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2024, 09:38:52 AM »
   I would love to beat them then. Take 400k from them. How sweet that would be. 

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2024, 10:42:49 AM »
Some owners or trainers buy spots hoping their horse is good enough to make it, but some end up selling their spot for way less than the $100,000 they originally paid.

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2024, 11:11:32 AM »

Nothing comes out of the purse account. Ever spot cost 100,000.00, so if Determination wants to buy 4 spots who cares

Actually this year it was only $50,000 per slot not the normal $100,000 per slot and the rest comes from mohawk purses so thats why the horsemen should care. I guess only the select few get to race for that money. 

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2024, 11:54:56 AM »
For all the $$$ Serge has invested he is entitled to try to get some of it back...Determinat ion has had some fantastic years and some not so fantastic years, but win, lose or drawn Determination is not afraid to step up and swing hard.

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2024, 12:28:17 PM »
I had 3 horses in a SS final, the draw set it up perfect. We talked before the race. The race was a total cluster fuck, of the 3 drivers, 1, did what he was supposed to do, with the 3rd best horse, only one that got a check.

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2024, 12:39:55 PM »
Alagna got 4 in the Metro..so whats the big deal..

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2024, 01:04:29 PM »
Alagna got 4 in the Metro..so whats the big deal..

The difference is anyone can pay staking fees to put their horse into the Metro, all horsemen have the opportunity to do that.  The Mohawk Million you buy a spot and the regular horsemen can't outbid a Billionaire for those spots, so I don't think its fair that half the purse money is coming out of the horsemen's pool.  I'm sure all horsemen would love an opportunity to race for that $500,000.

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2024, 04:30:43 PM »
How much is a buy spot for the mohawk million???

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2024, 08:18:24 PM »
https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/1-12-24/changes-announced-mohawk-million.html

Following a review of the Mohawk Million format, Woodbine has reduced the price of purchasing a slot in the race for two-year-old trotters from $100,000 to $50,000 and will offer all 10 slots in the race for purchase.

The race will continue to offer a $1 million purse with $500,000 in added money.

The winner of the William Wellwood Memorial will no longer receive a free slot in the Mohawk Million.

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2024, 09:36:42 PM »
yeah, the horseman should race for that $500 k in overnights ....right!
maybe some more pop series for $8k claimers

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2024, 10:53:57 PM »
The difference is anyone can pay staking fees to put their horse into the Metro, all horsemen have the opportunity to do that.  The Mohawk Million you buy a spot and the regular horsemen can't outbid a Billionaire for those spots, so I don't think its fair that half the purse money is coming out of the horsemen's pool.  I'm sure all horsemen would love an opportunity to race for that $500,000.
No matter how you slice it the Determination guy will never ever make money . His trainer, driver and staff make out great but the guy behind the money spends millions for the occasional red ribbon. Not what turns me on , I'm a fan of the underdog not the guy who spends  5 million a year to make 2 million in purses. How is that good for racing?

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Re: Mohawk Million or "Determination" Million
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2024, 11:42:22 PM »
Determination is looking for the home run and have homebreds now that could be one of them. He's determined and great for the business

 

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