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White Rabbit

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Positive
« on: October 03, 2024, 09:24:51 AM »
Rumblings yesterday in the paddock at meadows was the greatest trainer , yellow n gray, keeps racking up money wins and another positive. Am sure it was dog , cat or his Chinese groom pissed in the stall. You just can’t make this stuff up

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Re: Positive
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2024, 10:12:56 AM »
No one should be surprised.

Yonkers1A

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Re: Positive
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2024, 10:56:10 AM »
Get out the broom

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Re: Positive
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2024, 11:14:04 AM »
When you have that many horses and that much help it's bound to happen.

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Re: Positive
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2024, 11:57:21 AM »
"bound to happen". Uh ya if you are cheating.

White Rabbit

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Re: Positive
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2024, 03:17:38 PM »
When you have that many horses and that much help it's bound to happen.
Bullshit , when your making that find of money your screening should be state of the art. Like the casinos, a guy watching a guy watching that guy and so on.
Just like the article on USA Today about gabapentin being the new abused drug.

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Re: Positive
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2024, 03:50:27 PM »
The man has horses stabled at 4 different racetracks and at least one training center. He may not see some of his horses for months at a time. He gets blamed because he's the trainer of record.

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Re: Positive
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2024, 03:54:24 PM »
When a company gets a product recall because of ecoli or listeria do they blame the field worker who processed the produce or do they have to own up to it?

Only in racing can you shirk responsibility time and again.

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Re: Positive
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2024, 04:03:05 PM »
In his case, he pays the fine and serves the suspension when he feels like it. In my opinion he's not successful because he's cheating unlike some others who are.
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Re: Positive
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2024, 05:30:56 PM »
The man has horses stabled at 4 different racetracks and at least one training center. He may not see some of his horses for months at a time. He gets blamed because he's the trainer of record.

And so he should. If he has a problem with that  then he he should send some (or all)  to other trainers

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Re: Positive
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2024, 05:37:33 PM »
I don't disagree with you, my point was, he can't be everywhere with an operation as large as his, so you're relying on other people to do the right thing but sometimes there are slipups.

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Re: Positive
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2024, 06:22:03 PM »
Rumblings?  Slanderous rumblings and you guys are nailing the coffin on one of the best trainers to grace the sport.  Lets at least wait will we see a positive before we hang him! 

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Re: Positive
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2024, 08:09:06 PM »
The man has horses stabled at 4 different racetracks and at least one training center. He may not see some of his horses for months at a time. He gets blamed because he's the trainer of record.
That is no excuse.. I don't care if he has horses  at every harness track in the country.. and if he doesn't see some horses for months than why is he listed as the trainer? He is the CEO of a major operation and the buck stops with him. He will serve his suspension this winter as usual and grass is green and the sky is blue and the beat goes on. It's ridiculous. If you can't be everywhere because how big your operation is than cut down your stock... but he won't do that and why would he? Countless positives and still rakes in millions. It's sickening.

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Maurice
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2024, 09:24:06 PM »
That is no excuse.. I don't care if he has horses  at every harness track in the country.. and if he doesn't see some horses for months than why is he listed as the trainer? He is the CEO of a major operation and the buck stops with him. He will serve his suspension this winter as usual and grass is green and the sky is blue and the beat goes on. It's ridiculous. If you can't be everywhere because how big your operation is than cut down your stock... but he won't do that and why would he? Countless positives and still rakes in millions. It's sickening.

  Thanks for this post. tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1. I raced at major tracks from the sixties thru the 80's. During those times there weren't people like Burke, et al,. around. Then, in the 80's, Herve and the Capital Hills Farm became the claiming whores but listed Maurice Pusey as trainer to take the hit if necessary. This was also the time when drugging came into vogue. Herve would go first over as if it were the dream trip, REALLY, and the shit would come down on Pusey who was totally expendable. It's kinda like what the Bongiornos do today. It is my sincere hope that people like Herve, who lost it all at A.C. and the track kitchen at Westbury playing high stakes gin, and of course Burke and the Bongiornos, get their ticket punched at the TRAIN STATION, although at 79, it doesn't look good for me to witness.

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Re: Maurice
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2024, 09:30:20 PM »
It is my sincere hope that people like Herve, who lost it all at A.C. and the track kitchen at Westbury playing high stakes gin
Did they bring in Stewie the Kid Ungar to gaslight Herve in Gin? Timing seems about right and the teenage kid was the best gin player in the world.

 

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