Karl To Stand Stud In 2025

[Brown jug]

he  might have to do it the hardway like chapter seven did
he will benefit from crawford being involved and even takter in terms of getting some decent mares

[The Answer]

“ Commercial Breeders” what are you talking about? Who else is going to put up 125k to buy a share in Karl? Between Harrisburg and Lexington there will be 70+Karl’s to buy his first crop.

[Parked]

If yimmy couldnt get him any better than he was in Lex they are in trouble, especially if there are eliminations where he would have to come back in a week. 

What price will a share cost and how many breedings a share ??   I just can’t see breeders rushing in to pay $100,000 or even $50,000 a share for him.  They may have to go with 2 breedings a share ?? You will never hear how many shares were sold. Present owners will be eating some of them ?? 

[Miguel_Sanchez]

I love how they scoped sick and bled.  I thought this was supposed to be the greatest yimmy?  You mean to tell me you don't check his temp every day or pull blood in the middle of the week to check his white count?  The horse is perfect all week then gets beats and "scoped sick and bled"  Excuses Excuses Excuses.  Great horses don't have excuses!  Typical Yimmy sales job. 

[gh2009]

Funny thing, before they scope sick after he loses, Nancy always says the horse trained great during the week. You're right, she is a big excuse maker when her horses don't win.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I don't know if he was scoped during the week, or if they pulled blood, or what. I do know he trained well---I would say bordering on very well---before his last start. That's why with the race he threw in, I think he is what we saw. Maybe a different horse shows up for the BC. I wouldn't bet on it, but who knows.

[gh2009]

She had a built-in excuse prior to his last race at Red Mile with the second tier, however the horse ended up with a 100% perfect trip and came up empty, so she couldn't use it.

[Swandre]

Karl has won 18 of his 22 and been off the board once

Yup. Great horse. I guess his 2 year old year made him out to be the next super horse and he was vulnerable a couple times this year but still has had a great year. I did read on here Highland Kismet was supposed to jerk his bridle in Lexington. never happened.

[gh2009]

The problem with saying he had a great year is, people tend to go by what he's done recently, not earlier in the year.

[Way to go]

Genius man has spoken.....you are so well versed on absolutely everything

[Grandstand Handicapper]

The problem with saying he had a great year is, people tend to go by what he's done recently, not earlier in the year.

Agreed. More importantly, I think people----the important ones----are going to go by what they see on the track. To them it's not about propaganda on a fact sheet. It's about what he did and how he did it on the track.

[Call Sign Merlin]

He absolutely gets Jiggy Jog she’s a Walner and with Muscle Hill out of juice he’s the only place to go.

Guess I would just take her straight to Tactical Landing vs an unproven.  Not sure I would be super excited about it but if Muscle Hill isn’t a real option things get dicey quick

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Go look up the stud fees if that's what works for you. This is about where the list gets cut off.

Commercial breeders who sell yearlings are not looking at a fact sheet, a stat sheet, or propaganda. They are looking at what the horse is on the track, what he did and how he did it. I think Karl was visually a dominant 2yo. I said he wouldn't do the same at 3, at least not throughout the year. He regressed a bit, but the others caught up to him. I take nothing away from what he's accomplished as a 2yo, but as a 3yo, no offense, he looks like just a horse. He got lucky winning the Hambo. He got beat by just a horse after that. In the KY Futurity he showed what he is relative to the rest of the field/crop. Take the Hambo away and you're looking at what? Yes, I know, the teletimer. People who stress that do so because one, they have to, it's all they know, and two, because they have to deflect away from who and what the horse is on the track.

Sire Name:
CHAPTER SEVEN   
WALNER   
MUSCLE HILL   
MUSCLE MASS   
FATHER PATRICK   
SWAN FOR ALL   
TACTICAL LANDING   
CANTAB HALL   
GREENSHOE   
BAR HOPPING   
UNCLE PETER
INTERNATIONAL MONI

If this colt miraculously turns around 180 and wins the BC and dominates, then it changes his stud career. Doesn't change my opinion though. Body of work. Not one race.

[gh2009]

Do you think if he wins the Breeders Crown, Takter will have the guts to challenge the older horses in the TVG/FanDuel final?

[The Answer]

Karl entered in BC on lasix. Looks like someone has been right all along?