Karl

[rainman2]

If they tried to race him at all as a 4 yr old, I think his value would have gone down more. He already has shown his vulnerabilities, at least Noel told everyone about his horse, no bullshit. I do question Karl's heart after re watching his 3 yr old races. His lack of anything on the maternal side, I wouldn't take a shot when there are great alternatives.

And less expensive alternatives!!

[Here they come]

He is going to stand in KY

[rainman2]

He is going to stand in KY

Does Kentucky have ‘dual’ program where you can have an out of state bred horse that can be foaled in Kentucky and race both programs?

Does being a Kentucky sire help or hurt those who are interested in breeding to him and having to race there??

[SDST2009]

If they tried to race him at all as a 4 yr old, I think his value would have gone down more. He already has shown his vulnerabilities, at least Noel told everyone about his horse, no bullshit. I do question Karl's heart after re watching his 3 yr old races. His lack of anything on the maternal side, I wouldn't take a shot when there are great alternatives.

I too would be way more inclined to try, for example, Sig Sauer over him, especially because my assumption is he's going to end up standing for around half of what they'll want for Karl. Muscle Hill sons, while not all top-tier sires, certainly hold their own. Sig also has a much stronger female line that actually seems to be heating back up, too.

[Miguel_Sanchez]

Sig was a 200K yearling so he has better pedigree and confirmation that Karl.  Karl found his speed early as a typical driven 2yo by Yannick.  They never get any faster or better.  He went to the well way too soon.