How many owners have gotten the shaft from ongait?

[Late to the Paddock]

Read the "disclaimer" which discusses the site's terms of use. It's buried at the very bottom of the home page. That tells me all I need to know.

[samstar]

I got screwed on On Gait by Erv Miller.  He posted a trotter (Ponda Adventure ) on December 1st  using the same pictures that he used in January at another sale.  The horse had a knot on the back of his knee the size of a peanut butter cup, bloody and festering.  This was a total misrepresentation, and the horse has been off with a coffin bone problem since the first of the year. I could easily have taken Erv to court and would have won the case but it would have been very expensive and time consuming. I decided instead to let everyone know that they should be very careful when buying a horse from Erv Miller.  I will continue to advise people when he posts horses on On Gait.  If we all outed the liars and cheaters, they couldn't sell their horses.  On  Gait can't stop these people from lying but we can if we call them out every time some one misrepresents.  Harness Racing is fun!

[Brown jug]

agree, agree, agree
these guys run up bids from behind the curtain
its like the little dud in the wizard of oz

[Slobbert23]

Read the "disclaimer" which discusses the site's terms of use. It's buried at the very bottom of the home page. That tells me all I need to know.

Straight up admitting they know shady business goes on. What a joke.

[samstar]

Speaking of Miller he has two on On Gait this Saturday.  I would advise anyone interested  to do a thorough vetting and sit behind the horse before buying.  Also verify that the horses pictures are actually the horse being sold.  I suspect that the end purchaser will end up screwed/  Lots of horror stories out there about Millers integrity when it comes to selling horses.

[Berwyn]

Ongait = trouble. It’s just that simple. Eric and Maurice are in on the scam with Erv and other juice trainers. You guys are doing a good thing for the sport by outing both of these cheats like Erv and ongait. Thank God for horseplop.

[Deadbeat]

Here we go again! Selling off a season best. Why would you sell if the horse is getting better. Oh wait, because the horse is about to crash. Stop scamming the public!!!!

https://ongait.com/Listings/View/30909?search=

Buying off of Per seemingly never ends well.

[Slobbert23]

It took a dumbass like Ian Kaufman to claim off Per for $45,000 and that horse is maybe worth $10,000 now. Other than that, nobody at Yonkers will claim off him. So he resorts to trying to suck in someone out of state to buy off him. Asshole.

[Slobbert23]

And they made it a spotlight listing. How desperate are these lowlifes? DO NOT BID!!!!

[dougie]

I know very little about Ongait. I always wondered about sites selling horses. If the ones listed had any real worth. why would any trainer or owner want to sell them? Unless they are reducing their stock or the owners want out of the biz.

[Slobbert23]

I know very little about Ongait. I always wondered about sites selling horses. If the ones listed had any real worth. why would any trainer or owner want to sell them? Unless they are reducing their stock or the owners want out of the biz.

Dougie, they use those excuses, but it’s bullshit. Maurice and Eric need to grow a pair and ban these motherfuckers.

[Slobbert23]

And also make it right for the people that got conned.

[wiggles44]

https://ongait.com/Listings/View/30619

When the leftovers outbid you

[truthisgrey]

Such an odd thread. Ongait is a selling platform, you realize these aren’t Eric’s or Maurice’s horses I hope (only once in a great while does Eric sell one of his own on there). The company simply provides a sales platform, where sellers can list or list for auction, and people can bid or buy. Pretty simple concept. The site is no different than any public auction, either virtual or in person auction. The people that auction or list horses on the site are the same people that sell at Blooded Horse, Harrisburg, etc, or online at PEO. You want Ongait to not take listings because you question the quality of the horse? Well if this happened there would be zero auctions, live or virtual. Auctions are and always will be buyer beware. If you question the seller, it literally couldn’t be more simple, don’t bid on that horse. A lot of the comments on this thread show you either don’t understand the concept of auctions, or sales in general. You people are saying you’ll buy a horse, from a seller, without inspecting the horse, thru a website that just provides a platform, and you want to blame the website for it? No idea where this logic comes from, for the love of humanity please tell me you’re smarter than that.

[truthisgrey]

As a White House press spokesperson, I am urging all horsemen to boycott ongait until they do something to fix the problem of screwing over unsuspecting buyers for the past three years. Erv and Virgil get a percentage of every horse sold on ongait because Eric Cherri runs the bid up and then kicks them back money at the end of the auction. It’s all a scam so it’s not any longer buyer beware, this is outright criminal fraud and they are going to get prosecuted. I urge any horsemen who ongait has screwed over to at least report it to the Florida office of the attorney general. If you need their contact information, send me  PM and I’ll give you my contact person. Maurice and Eric need to be shut down just like I got the investigation started with cash app and mesothelioma. They are not too big to take down. We just have to get them reported to the right government agency. Eric P

Eric Ponders as a spokesperson, I’d sure think you’d do a little research before you spew this crap for all to see LOL. This kickback scheme you’ve come up with, this is something you have proof of how exactly? You’re one of the shareholders? No you’re not, I know. If you were you would understand there aren’t “run up bids” or “kickbacks”. There is a large group of shareholders, all horsemen in the industry. As a shareholder you pay normal fees and commission just like everyone else does, and there isn’t any special way to see who is bidding and run up. Ever been to a live auction? Because the auctioneers and bid spotters never run people up, right? Maybe everyone at Lexington should file a complaint with the attorney general  Very disappointing from you Eric, as someone that I see normally just report facts, really thought you were more than that.