How many owners have gotten the shaft from ongait?

[littlebitbrown]

Owner of site is cashing in. 

[Calhoun]

You have to be a damn fool to buy a used horse sight unseen based on internet pictures.

[Harness racer]

You have to be a damn fool to buy a used horse sight unseen based on internet pictures.

That is so true!  The big ego guys that think they can fix or improve anything are the main buyers!   

[Slobbert23]

Such an odd thread. Ongait is a selling platform, you realize these aren’t Eric’s or Maurice’s horses I hope (only once in a great while does Eric sell one of his own on there). The company simply provides a sales platform, where sellers can list or list for auction, and people can bid or buy. Pretty simple concept. The site is no different than any public auction, either virtual or in person auction. The people that auction or list horses on the site are the same people that sell at Blooded Horse, Harrisburg, etc, or online at PEO. You want Ongait to not take listings because you question the quality of the horse? Well if this happened there would be zero auctions, live or virtual. Auctions are and always will be buyer beware. If you question the seller, it literally couldn’t be more simple, don’t bid on that horse. A lot of the comments on this thread show you either don’t understand the concept of auctions, or sales in general. You people are saying you’ll buy a horse, from a seller, without inspecting the horse, thru a website that just provides a platform, and you want to blame the website for it? No idea where this logic comes from, for the love of humanity please tell me you’re smarter than that.

What’s odd about this? Guess you’re a fan of people getting robbed. This is not like Harrisburg. This is full of cheats and scams. And at public auctions you can see the horse live, not photos from who knows when. Nice of you to come on here and defend assholes. You must be Per Engblom’s gopher.

[Goaldigger]

Here is another gentleman that bought a mare off On Gait that got fucked. If you go to the group Anything Harness Racing For Sale on Facebook, Leo Marino has 3 different post about the mare Tall Poppy N mare he bought off OnGait who was lame (left foot screwed together) looking for some advice and guidance on how to proceed. Below I copied and pasted one of the post-
Anything Harness Racing For Sale
Leo Marino
Tall Poppy N- purchased this horse to race.  She was listed on ongait.com as a horse with 4 clean legs and ready to drop in the box.  She raced as recent as 9-11-24.  Purchased her shortly after.  When I reached out to the trainer she simply said to me "trains great doesn't race great needs a cheaper track".  She was very nice describing the horses personality and gave me the idea I'd be ok buying as a racehorse.  Provided the blood records, everything looked good.
We drop her in the box just like the description states but we discover she's foot sore, we gotta scratch.  Vet comes in and discovers she has the left front foot screwed together.  Vet recommends nerving which would run around $2,000 followed by 30-40 days off.  Unfortunately for me ongait doesn't have insurance for these situations so she's available for sale.  With her breeding and iron toughness on the track she's a lock to spit out some good ones, given the proper time she'll even come back to the track and recapture the brilliant speed she's shown in her career.

I ain't looking to blast the old trainer, mistakes happen horses go in and out of barns but these are the facts.  Horse hasn't been raced since purchased and the X-Rays taken can indicate why.

Let's get her situated somewhere and to someone who could appreciate being around this beautiful animal.  Make a good solid offer and she'll be on her way to you.

[Goaldigger]

Here is 2 of 3 post Leo Marino post about Tall Poppy N he bought off OnGait. There are many replies on all 3 of Leo Marino’s posts.
Anything Harness Racing For Sale
Leo Marino
Tall Poppy N- after weeks of trying to contact the seller Rodney Long, Ongait has offered some advice to me.  Just stop paying the bills on her and take the Amish offer.  Also I was told that if I ever wanted to bid on a horse “like that” I should call and get his opinion.  Was asked for a second time and I quote…”what reason would you have to bid on a horse beaten 45 lengths”?  This is a man who owns 300 horses in our business.  He admits to the fact I got screwed but there will be no refunds given.  He also said he will continue to try and contact Rodney.  He is banned from the site and that’s the best he can do.  He also asked in the event I contact Rodney would I accept half my money back?   Clearly that’s not an option considering he’s 100% at fault.

I basically had to initiate every inquiry about the situation with Ongait, Tessa (who went silent after I was wise to the situation but perfect prior) and of course Rodney “I can’t talk right now but I can see your text messages” Long.  Horse was blocked sound (vet reports prove that). Advertised on their website incorrectly but it’s me who has to accept responsibility. 

I’ve been an owner in this business since 2016.  Bought and sold many horses on his website and always conducted myself properly. 

Tall Poppy N is available, breeding season is upon us.  Let’s do the right thing and get her situated.  With her breeding I can’t see why she won’t make someone a happy mate.

This is not a personal attack on anyone this is just the way it went down.  There’s a lame horse sitting in a stall in Saratoga, it would be nice if Ongait took responsibility and stepped up.  Rodney Long you can make things easy and put this to bed with payment.  Anyone who drive’s a horse for you should know the respect you have for them and the horses you own.

[Goaldigger]

Here is Leo Marino’s last post on the Facebook group Anything Harness Racing For Sale trying to sell her as a broodmare or down the line with time off train/ race her. However Leo is honest and there is even an X Ray of the front left foot screwed together on this post. If you go to the group on Facebook you would have to scroll down to October 6, 2024 for the first post. I hope this mare gets a soft landing. Copied and pasted
Anything Harness Racing For Sale
Leo Marino
Tall Poppy N was sold to me as a racehorse described as 4 clean legs sound and ready to drop in the box.  Unfortunately, after walking lame a few days after she arrived it was discovered she was blocked sound by the previous owner or trainer that sold me the horse.  I made many numerous attempts to contact the old owner to do the right thing and take her back.  He took the route of ignoring my calls, texts and proof of the counterfeit sale.

She had a screw placed in her left front foot which is shown in the pictures provided.  I think she'll have an amazing career as a broodmare.  She's got great size, her record and breeding speak for itself.  Vet advises nerving and 30-40 stall rest.  If you wait on her she could probably be a useful racehorse but I'm selling her for the reasons above.  Currently she's located on a farm 15 minutes from Saratoga, NY.  Personally, if I had the resources to stick it out with her I would but clearly, I don't.  Feel free to contact me if you have questions or concerns.

[Brown jug]

its a contentious issue for sure
where does the duty of care lie
do people really need horses that bad to buy a horse like tall poppy, an older mare, shows 2 vet scratches in last 5 lines, beat a total 45 lengths last 3...really, that's the kind of horse you need to buy??

just my opinion

[truthisgrey]

What’s odd about this? Guess you’re a fan of people getting robbed. This is not like Harrisburg. This is full of cheats and scams. And at public auctions you can see the horse live, not photos from who knows when. Nice of you to come on here and defend assholes. You must be Per Engblom’s gopher.

I guess agree to disagree. I’m not defending Per or any sellers. This whole industry is unfortunately full of cheats. But all I’m trying to understand is how/why you are blaming a website. The site doesn’t pick the horses, it simply provides a platform where buyers can look for horses to buy. If you question a horse or the seller, why would you bid??? Don’t bid, problem solved. Wow

[Harness racer]

I guess agree to disagree. I’m not defending Per or any sellers. This whole industry is unfortunately full of cheats. But all I’m trying to understand is how/why you are blaming a website. The site doesn’t pick the horses, it simply provides a platform where buyers can look for horses to buy. If you question a horse or the seller, why would you bid??? Don’t bid, problem solved. Wow

Lots of crooks trying to fuck someone over on on gait...but you are 100% correct, DON"T BID!!!  With all the horror stories and very few rags to riches story, why even bother?

[lost cause]

did you ever buy a car,equipment at an online auction?its always buyer beware.ive had ggod and not so good experiences.alway s expect things to need repairs.did you not watch her races?have someone you trust look at her?

[samstar]

I have bought cars, property,  airplanes and horses on line including a home in FLA.  I have learned one thing in my 81 years and that is if you deal with assholes you will come out smelling like shit.   
The character of the seller is most important to me and you will note that most of my horses have been bought from pretty good people. 
Some people think that the woman carrying the purse is at fault not the purse snatcher. Go Figure!

[truthisgrey]

Lots of crooks trying to fuck someone over on on gait...but you are 100% correct, DON"T BID!!!  With all the horror stories and very few rags to riches story, why even bother?

Lots of different experiences I’m sure. Me personally I’ve done extremely well on the ones I’ve bought off the site, but I do the homework. I either know the seller/trainer or I have someone look. But if I bought one and it turned out to have an issue, I would discuss with the seller who perhaps wasn’t truthful, I can’t imagine being so stupid as to try and blame the website where the seller listed the horse. That’s comparable to buying a used car from a newspaper classified ad and being mad at the newspaper company if the car ends up having an issue.

[Third Over]

Why not charge a simple superficial $150 accredited vet check examination fee before listing is accepted to the seller,, so that way (buyer, seller, consignor and auction Co.) reputations are protected from fraudulent activity..

[Slobbert23]

I guess agree to disagree. I’m not defending Per or any sellers. This whole industry is unfortunately full of cheats. But all I’m trying to understand is how/why you are blaming a website. The site doesn’t pick the horses, it simply provides a platform where buyers can look for horses to buy. If you question a horse or the seller, why would you bid??? Don’t bid, problem solved. Wow

Don’t bid??? You’re contradicting yourself! One hand you’re defending Eric and Maurice and the next you’re saying don’t bid on their site. Unbelievable.