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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2025, 02:43:46 PM »
Back in the old days, the program used to have a past performance line and an index of what all the letters and symbols stand for. That was long before they removed the rail.

This is true. I'd like to ask you. since she is a subject matter expert, shouldn't she be aware of all symbols and what then stand for? Or is that too much to ask cause they aren't in the program any more.

The horse in question was awful at Yonkers athe week before but she excused it for being interfered with. I think k cause she personally knows the owners.

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2025, 02:49:26 PM »
This is true. I'd like to ask you. since she is a subject matter expert, shouldn't she be aware of all symbols and what then stand for? Or is that too much to ask cause they aren't in the program any more.

The horse in question was awful at Yonkers athe week before but she excused it for being interfered with. I think k cause she personally knows the owners.

Someone in her position should know what the symbols stand for and if she isn't sure should ask Dave Little who is more experienced and should know. Sometimes these on-air personalities try too hard to show you how smart they are and end up looking stupid.

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2025, 02:56:45 PM »
Someone in her position should know what the symbols stand for and if she isn't sure should ask Dave Little who is more experienced and should know. Sometimes these on-air personalities try too hard to show you how smart they are and end up looking stupid.

It's a relatively small issue compared to her congratulating the elite turf club. after pools closed elite was able to see what uncovered combinations were out there and made calculated bets in less than 1 aecond to take down the pool. Everyone should be enraged. Its simply not a fair betting arena

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2025, 02:59:55 PM »
She should be totally impartial, and it's very unprofessional to congratulate them. Is it really her place to tell who held the winning ticket, no way Jose.

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2025, 03:13:09 PM »
She should be totally impartial, and it's very unprofessional to congratulate them. Is it really her place to tell who held the winning ticket, no way Jose.


The OP hit it on the head. The otten elite situation is far far far worse than anything else going on in the industry. Posters like the Grandstand guy will try to subdue it by pointing at the breeders cup scandal but make no mistake, we are seeing criminal activity with these caws every day

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2025, 03:34:22 PM »

Not that long ago track announcers never mentioned the odds on a horse during the race. Now most of them mention the odds before, during, and after the race which is unnecessary.

Many track announcers used to be boring robots who announced from a script. Could you imagine how worse off we would be if subjected to that every night from every track? Racing is boring enough as it is in most places.

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2025, 03:48:54 PM »
It's a relatively small issue compared to her congratulating the elite turf club. after pools closed elite was able to see what uncovered combinations were out there and made calculated bets in less than 1 aecond to take down the pool. Everyone should be enraged. Its simply not a fair betting arena

You understand the issue

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2025, 03:55:16 PM »
You understand the issue

Who is Elite. Nyra or Churchill,? I'm too tired to look it up. Either way it is a racetrack account. Ruining racing. Gural should be taken to the cleaners

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2025, 04:02:37 PM »
It's nyra and stronach. Anyone who wants to take aim, boycott sararoga, belmont aqueduct as we as gural for stealing your money

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2025, 04:25:13 PM »
It's nyra and stronach. Anyone who wants to take aim, boycott sararoga, belmont aqueduct as we as gural for stealing your money

Correct...Nyra shuts them out early. Located in Curacao...Very secretive. Maybe 20 huge bettors make up the entire group. Maybe 2 harness players. Hence my envelope suspicion.

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2025, 04:31:52 PM »
Correct...Nyra shuts them out early. Located in Curacao...Very secretive. Maybe 20 huge bettors make up the entire group. Maybe 2 harness players. Hence my envelope suspicion.

They shut early from the win pool only. That's very important to note. It hides them from public scrutiny. They are betting after all of is in every other pool. It's noticeable at the meadowlands more than any other. They can bet win after us there.

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2025, 06:05:45 PM »
not many over lays anymore

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2025, 09:35:57 PM »
Jessica otten does not understand the program.

When a horse goes inside the pylons it is "ip" noted in the program. What this does not mean is that the was interfered with as she noted when giving wagering advice.

She wants to congratulate a devious CAW team with every advantage over us and steal our money, we should never bet there ever again!

She is a fucking idiot.  Do some research before spouting off about shit she has no clue!  Those CAW's are stealing everyone's money.  If we stop feeding the pools they won't have an existence. 

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2025, 09:41:56 PM »
leave Jessica alone...I'm very proud of her and her sister...I'm Michigan horseman!!!

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Re: Jessica Otten and Elite Turf Club
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2025, 09:44:00 PM »
so kiss my ass!!!

 

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