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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2025, 11:08:03 PM »
Just to show you how crooked even the racing commission is. They waited till after the DSOA races were done for Stafford before issuing the suspension to start, Stafford should have never been allowed to race in those races. (Hell, he won 5 times the fine amount in those races) and Crissman should have not been allowed to race at Chester. They had the hearing in August but waited till December DSOA races to finish up! Why did it take 4 months for the suspension to start? They allowed Lares horses to go back to Kevin and Bart Bradley's horses to go back to his dad as trainer. They allowed Crissman to use the groom on none Crissman owned horses as trainer. They allowed Kevins horses (Bartlett) who is somehow not mentioned in the fines but apparently excluded from Dover to go to Walter Callahan and Chicks horses to go to Sullivan. So, owners once again are not held accountable, and business just goes on! So, the presiding judge just as bad as the culprits! Plus, I'm sure there's more than we know that's going on behind the scenes. All those positives had one person in common and he goes Scott free!

And horsemen wonder why the younger generation rather sports bet than play line up horse racing!

They’ve known forever and still let Art jr race in the stakes…but they wouldn’t let his prize horse Penzance Hanover race.  He looked great in a qualifier at Harrington on 10/16 and hasn’t been entered since.  That horse make 100k+ every year and loves to race at Dover.  So how could he enter the stakes but nothing else?  Seems like he shouldn’t have been welcome at all!

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2025, 05:21:12 AM »
And Gasmeyer is partners with Berry. See it all comes around in a neat lil circle!

Kevin Lare's suspension was listed around the beginning of the meet. If you noticed, his son Shea got a 1-year suspension, this comes after he had a 6-month suspension last year, like father, like son.

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2025, 05:27:33 AM »
They’ve known forever and still let Art jr race in the stakes…but they wouldn’t let his prize horse Penzance Hanover race.  He looked great in a qualifier at Harrington on 10/16 and hasn’t been entered since.  That horse make 100k+ every year and loves to race at Dover.  So how could he enter the stakes but nothing else?  Seems like he shouldn’t have been welcome at all!

I think he was able to run in the stake races because he had already paid nomination fees into the race and got special permission to run. As for Penzance Hanover, Stafford has said because of his allergies he only runs in cold weather. The suspension hurts him even more because he's the sole owner of the horse.
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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2025, 08:32:05 AM »
can these types of fines be appealed?

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2025, 08:38:42 AM »
Isnt 6 months for a Class1-unbelievably low???

People get 10 years for a mineral--Cobalt-a Class 3--then 6 MONTHS for a Class 1 drug ??

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2025, 09:26:57 AM »
These positive tests were all from August and September, and they involved multiple horses. If they appealed, it's already been heard because these suspensions began at the start of Dover's meet on November 1st.

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2025, 10:11:41 AM »
Delaware, like everywhere else. RINSE AND REPEAT, no real consequences

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2025, 11:46:59 AM »
Delaware, like everywhere else. RINSE AND REPEAT, no real consequences

 tmbz1 this is very accurate--and you would have to believe its one of the main reasons why HISA is being challenged by Harness racing hierarchy. Ask yourself--why the lenient low penalty for a Class 1?

1) You have Williams as the President of USTA-and he also runs the biggest breeding operation. Outing trainers and owners of larger stables--would hurt their business. So they crucify the little guys--while the big guns get working holidays.

2) Cronyism---rampant in harness racing---not relevant in TBreds--look what they did to Baffert. If Burke got the same similar positive(which he did in PA) they would (and did)sweep it under the rug.Burke has a list of positives that would fill about 2-3 pages--from Glaucine,Opiates ,cortisones,Black Box etc etc -but hes in the Hall of Fame.

There is NO PLACE for Class 1 performance enhancers-which actually have been proven to affect a horses performance.
Until Harness Officials get serious about this-the game will continue like the Titanic did.
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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2025, 01:15:48 PM »
Bond, Spot on. Delaware, even reduced the penalties that were originally  prescribed. So they all got a break, makes no sense in the real world, only harness racing.   














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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2025, 02:25:02 PM »
Bond, Spot on. Delaware, even reduced the penalties that were originally  prescribed. So they all got a break, makes no sense in the real world, only harness racing.

Exactly-and is the reason why there should be one independent authority to administer penalties for PED's-take it out of the hands of Judges that are obviously biased or under the thumb from higher up the food chain.
Every one of these trainers who used the Class 1-are cheaters but what is worse is --no regard for what they put into their horse. As an owner-if my trainer told me he would be using this on my horse--he would no longer be training it.
AB Fubinaca--AKA"Train Wreck"was first synthesised to use as a pain killer--but was discontinued by Pfizer--why?? BECAUSE ITS TOXIC.
Humans let alone horses should not be using something that is in the order of over 100X more powerful than THC-the active in pot and was discontinued by the top research company who determined it was toxic.!.



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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2025, 06:00:05 PM »
Shouldn't they be asking where they got it from and notify the authorities on who's guilty of using it? Since it's been discontinued. Make them give up the supplier if they want to race again!
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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2025, 06:17:50 PM »
I think he was able to run in the stake races because he had already paid nomination fees into the race and got special permission to run. As for Penzance Hanover, Stafford has said because of his allergies he only runs in cold weather. The suspension hurts him even more because he's the sole owner of the horse.

Thats the problem there's always "special permission or " mitigating circumstances"!

He got no fine basically because with his "special permission" he was allowed to generate an income to pay his fines! Just like Crissman with his "special permission" as well. He paid into no race ahead of time! Just overnighters and they let him keep on racing! Was wondering on what grounds they decided to reduce the fines. Just shows you how crooked and DEAD the game is!
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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2025, 08:33:53 PM »
It's similar to when someone's convicted of a crime and the prosecutor requests a sentence of so many years, but the judge imposes a lesser sentence because it's their 1st offense, although these guys had multiple horses test positive.

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2025, 07:20:18 AM »
didn't maryland put the horses on steward's list?

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Re: State of Delaware Suspensions
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2025, 07:29:37 AM »
Crissman and Brenneman ran a couple of their horses a month ago at Harrah's Philly, since then none of the trainers have run their horses anywhere with the exception of Stafford Jr, who was permitted to run 2 of his horses in Delaware Standardbred Fund races at Dover because the nomination fees had already been paid.

 

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