Takter’s Diamond Creek horses- where are they now?

[hammer0419]

Her vet bills are equal to or more then her training bills. She lost help cause she gave them $900.00 Christmas bonuses. Diamond Creek gave the horses to Pelling,I was told he left because the ROI was close to 3% and the Karl fiasco didn't help either.

[hoosierboy]

Her vet bills are equal to or more then her training bills. She lost help cause she gave them $900.00 Christmas bonuses. Diamond Creek gave the horses to Pelling,I was told he left because the ROI was close to 3% and the Karl fiasco didn't help either.

Hopefully Marcus laughed each time a horse walked out her barn

[AgentQ]

Diamond Creek has come to the conclusion any intelligent and savvy owner would: that is, Brett Pelling is twice the trainer Nancy is and by extension you're more likely to turn a profit with him instead of her. Plain and simple.

[jupiter]

Bret's bills won't be a hell of a lot cheaper, maybe the help went with them. I'm not saying Bret isn't a great trainer, but that's no knock on Nancy, she puts in the work and has results. And I would rather have Josert drive the cheaper stuff than Jack "the ripper" Pelling, no talent bum.

[hammer0419]

Jupiter on what first hand knowledge do you base the statement that Brett's vet bills will be equal to Nancy. I'm stabled next to Brett for over a year now,I've hardly see a vet in his barn.

[rainman2]

Yes we(trainers) do, have, and will turn down some horses and some owners. Anyway I sure as hell have.

Any famous names that we would recognize?

[rainman2]

It has been my experience that the richer the owner, the cheaper they are. It's always the guy with average means that treats the trainer and the trainer's staff well.

100% CORRECT!

[SDST2009]

Jupiter on what first hand knowledge do you base the statement that Brett's vet bills will be equal to Nancy. I'm stabled next to Brett for over a year now,I've hardly see a vet in his barn.

I'd love to hear some expansion on this. A solid vet relationship is both unavoidable and advantageous in owning performance horses. I'm not suggesting anything illegal or nefarious at all by this; it's just facts. A vet is a vital and healthy part of any successful operation.

[hammer0419]

He uses Steve Dye who's reputation is beyond reproach.

[Harness racer]

Her vet bills are equal to or more then her training bills. She lost help cause she gave them $900.00 Christmas bonuses. Diamond Creek gave the horses to Pelling,I was told he left because the ROI was close to 3% and the Karl fiasco didn't help either.

They left due to only getting $900 bonuses?  Sounds like more than 99% of grooms got as Christmas bonuses.

[Under The STick]

On the subject of Karl. I'm sure they tested him before announcing him going to stud or at least that's how it normally works. Maybe they didn't if so, that was a big mistake on DCF part. Big owners like to change barns if they aren't getting what they want. I have seen owners take winning horses because they wanted to race the horse over its head & the trainer said no!!

[jupiter]

Bret is as clean as the driven snow, give me a fucking break. He's a great trainer but if you don't think he uses every means to have them ready to race.You don't know Bret. I was also stabled next to him. The Vet doesn't need to be there all the time, once a day is enough, or has he Steve quit doing his normal routine.

[Miguel_Sanchez]

If I were a groom I would be pissed with 900 when she charges 3% to owners for groom bonus.  She stripped 30K from Karl alone and even if she had 30 grooms she only paid out 18K - That's total BS!

[Chessington]

Bret is as clean as the driven snow, give me a fucking break. He's a great trainer but if you don't think he uses every means to have them ready to race.You don't know Bret. I was also stabled next to him. The Vet doesn't need to be there all the time, once a day is enough, or has he Steve quit doing his normal routine.

Just like most bad trainers. A little jealous  when somebody does well and you can’t. Typical low life horseman’s response!

[Brown jug]

clearly they did not test karl before announcing and finalizing stud deal
would be very rare if the horse was deemed fertile at that time and then infertile 6-8 weeks later
dont see iit