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« on: January 14, 2025, 12:13:52 PM »
To me they are a joke,,,,,,,,,,,Working with the USTA people and track management is like the FBI WORKING WITH capone as many of these people use the BURKE type trainers to train their horses,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The super villians in this game are track management and standerbred.ca and the USTA........ I HAVE CALLED HISA and they believe they are really going places and i see their formula as one that can not work,,,,,,,

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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2025, 12:22:11 PM »
if you are buyiong a horse you would be dumb not to give it to one of the top trainers. not that its right by the horse but if you want to have any shot at making money you have to.
there was a trainer at northfield way back in the day. who did pretty well in the claiming game. he said if i ever get out ill buy a horse and give it to loney. some of you can probably figure out who he is.  why would he do that? he had by far the best pre race mixture getting those post race pictures.
if you are in it for the money which im sure most are. you have to use the fuel.

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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2025, 12:23:48 PM »
USTA sure spends a lot of time digging up anything negative on HISA. 
How enforcing some of the rules that the organization list.

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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2025, 12:57:00 PM »
if you are buyiong a horse you would be dumb not to give it to one of the top trainers. not that its right by the horse but if you want to have any shot at making money you have to.
there was a trainer at northfield way back in the day. who did pretty well in the claiming game. he said if i ever get out ill buy a horse and give it to loney. some of you can probably figure out who he is.  why would he do that? he had by far the best pre race mixture getting those post race pictures.
if you are in it for the money which im sure most are. you have to use the fuel.
100 percent correct as you might as well burn it if you go with a legit guy but HISA has no clue that is the case,,,,,,,, I remember the first time i went to Vegas and could not believe the way the gambler was treated with great food and great shows and always treated like royalty and asking myself why are all racetracks treating us this way as they take so much more vig and let the trainers and drivers run the show,,,,,,,,,,,, i do not see very many breeding farms continue when they die off the kids will not take over as it is out dated with nobody willing to change and zero horsemen saying huston we have a problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The old timers will always go with the keep it hush and do not talk about it,

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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2025, 01:06:28 PM »
it maybe too far gone to fix now. everyone in may as well just ride it out til it dies. but unless you use the top guys or you may get extremely lucky and find a diamond in the rough.
very unlikely.
if things are to change it better happen quick and needs to be drastic.

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2025, 03:34:02 PM »
I am pro-HISA and a supporter. I've met Lisa, heard her speak several times, and I like how HISA has adapted, reacted, and handled working collaboratively. Like with any massive change, transition, whatever, there are parts that will get worse before they get better. With drastic change and new governance, and all that goes along with it, there are always elements that have to be addressed, because of drastic change itself. There's going to be change pains, progress pains, and yes, cases that are going to hurt---and she's addressed many of them.

That said, IMO, by the time the USTA gets to the point of true acceptance, and where they are truly willing to collaborate---it will be too late for them. They will have already lost their chance to be a partner and co-author. HISA is moving ahead. The USTA is not. So be it. The USTA will suffer the consequences of their own actions.

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2025, 03:41:32 PM »
I am pro-HISA and a supporter. I've met Lisa, heard her speak several times, and I like how HISA has adapted, reacted, and handled working collaboratively. Like with any massive change, transition, whatever, there are parts that will get worse before they get better. With drastic change and new governance, and all that goes along with it, there are always elements that have to be addressed, because of drastic change itself. There's going to be change pains, progress pains, and yes, cases that are going to hurt---and she's addressed many of them.

That said, IMO, by the time the USTA gets to the point of true acceptance, and where they are truly willing to collaborate---it will be too late for them. They will have already lost their chance to be a partner and co-author. HISA is moving ahead. The USTA is not. So be it. The USTA will suffer the consequences of their own actions.
Grand i have to disagree with you as drugs are such a small problem today compaired to the yesterdays and i am not impressed by the way she operates as by a mile the biggest problem are the people running this game and she deals with them,,,,,,,,,,,,i called her many times and always got her assistant and i found her knowledge poor but thats the way i see it,,,,,,,,,

 

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