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Re: Helmet cams and microphones for all drivers.
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2025, 02:33:39 PM »
That is another guy that always seemed to get just a little more out of a horse. And yes Case was that good. If he had a zapper in a boot someone would have given the valet a $100 to get ahold of one. Just to get rid of Case. Yes he loved to brush a hock with his boot but he was an early one to figure out that most raceway horses were whip sour and that gave him an advantage
when Walter pulled they come out of their skin. I could’ve sworn he had a zapper in his boot! No doubt he was talented but man, he could get a lot out of a horse.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2025, 02:34:29 PM »
AH Life on the race track!
I loved it!
Back 30/40 years ago Daryl Busse would drive some horses for me.
Busse "I like driving your horses, but you keep that one owner of your's (Colonel Bob) away from me. I don't need that S O B telling me what I should do, or what I should have done".
So the next time a horse of Colonel Bob's is in I  tell Busse.
"You know Colonel Bob is an old stock car man. He brought along his stock car flags. When he waves the green you are to pull and go. If he is waving the white you are to sit in the hole, and if". As Busse is going to the track, and before I could finish, Busse is screaming "You tell that MFer to stick his flags up his ass"!
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2025, 02:36:59 PM »
especially if the horses he drove on the card weren’t tested for blood gas because the trainers were tipped off prior.
That shit still goes on up in Maine  I'm told.

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2025, 03:39:36 PM »
That shit still goes on up in Maine  I'm told.
A certain someone would contact trainers late afternoon on races they were testing for blood gas. Most of those trainers were gassers using Walter with most likely a full box along with confectionery sugar installed.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2025, 03:47:24 PM »
A certain someone would contact trainers late afternoon on races they were testing for blood gas. Most of those trainers were gassers using Walter with most likely a full box along with confectionery sugar installed.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2025, 04:41:55 PM »
The old school drench
Box of baking soda confectionery sugar the lowlifes would also hit them up with and OJ for extra measure... B12 with testosterone along with some dexamethasone for good measure when they got the word on what races they were testing with Walter up.

Some very wealthy owners would follow Pelling and company around like he was a God little that they know.

My opinion that whole mafia that came over from Australia and New Zealand Via California that started all this shit and helped to ruin the game.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2025, 10:41:06 PM »
I guess Walter is another guy who won all those races----not on talent, ability, etc.----simply because he was driving for chemists.

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2025, 11:20:35 PM »
The Meadowlands did this for a while on their YouTube channel. Albeit not the entire field but would mic up two guys and you could listen during the race. I thought it was really cool and interesting. They'd banter at each other too. I enjoyed watching them but I don't think it continued...

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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2025, 05:04:26 AM »
I recall them miking up John Campbell on the Hambo broadcast when it was on CBS.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2025, 10:10:20 AM »
I guess Walter is another guy who won all those races----not on talent, ability, etc.----simply because he was driving for chemists.
Walter was certainly talented there’s no doubt about it that with the combination of horses that the trainers knew were not being tested didn’t hurt either.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2025, 12:23:26 PM »
I say it's BS, nothing more than rumor and innuendo. What's not is his talent.

I don't know very many people who go through their life without some struggles, tough times, etc. I know a very few who get worse. Walter is one of them. This is not pity. He paid the price for his own decisions and/or addictions. For those very few who get the worse, their decisions and/or their additions consume and then ruin their lives. Walter is one of them. My feeling is that each of those people must make a decision as to which road they are going to take, and they do that one day at a time. On the other, people, society, everyone here, and so on, can decide as to accepting the person, giving them another chance, and everything else.

Now that I got that out of the way, we are not talking about a guy who had a great meet, season, or five. We are talking about a guy who showed his talent over the course of a career. A storied, checkered, and controversial career, but a career time-frame, albeit him missing what, 15 to 20 years in the bike. When Walter first came back, I watched him. He did not look good. I think he was struggling with some things---not using or drinking---and it took him the entire first year to find himself again. JMHO. However, in his second year back he shot about 20%, which is pretty good.....but certainly not Walter Case of old numbers. LOL.

Check out Walter's numbers in detail. For a period of 15 years -- 15 years!!! -- the guy won races at a 30% clip!!! 30%!!! 15 years!!! OK, all of them, every single year, he drove for chemists. They knew who wasn't going to be tested. And, btw, more than half those races were fixed! And the Holocaust did not happen. Get my point people?

The year Walter set the wins record, he won almost 1100 races and he won at a 36% clip! Any other driver who drove more wins----and there are only two who have----did so and the highest clip was 25%. OK, so Walter only did close to 50% better than the best ever produced. LOL. After those 15 years, his life fell apart. That discussion and debate is older than dirt. Have at it. I am done with that. Now, even during this peak, his record was still controversial. In his last year driving before he went away, I think he had 200 days of suspensions accumulated. A major # of fines, suspensions, etc. I get it. Much more than most other top drivers.

Anyway, people can argue Walter's talent, or lack of, all they want. It's nothing knew. People have a similar argument about Jack Moiseyev, Dave Palone, Carmine Abbatiello, and others. In full disclosure, I count Walter as a friend. That doesn't mean I defend or justify his actions. I don't. Not at all. I simply accept that he's turned his life around, and makes a decision every day, one day at a time, to fight a demon. A very nasty, deadly demon. Today, he's far from who he was in the 80's, 90's, and before he went away. He's even different, I say better and healthier, than who he was when he got out of jail, and also just five or six years ago. He's grounded today. He's humble, honest, vulnerable. His motivation today seems to be to simply earn a living. For me, he paid the price. He's made a decision. He is fighting for that decision, one day at a time. I admire that. I respect that. My dad wasn't able to do that. So I feel I have some experience with this. Everyone, all of you, get to make your own decision. Some people will simply not forget his past. I get that. To each their own. If that's the case, then there is no price, nothing can be done about his decisions and actions in the past, and nothing can change that. Again, to each their own. Like I said, I accept the decision he's making every day, and while I don't forget his past, I don't condemn him for it today.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2025, 12:40:28 PM »
Great post GH. I agree with you 100 per cent.

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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2025, 12:40:55 PM »
I say it's BS, nothing more than rumor and innuendo. What's not is his talent.

I don't know very many people who go through their life without some struggles, tough times, etc. I know a very few who get worse. Walter is one of them. This is not pity. He paid the price for his own decisions and/or addictions. For those very few who get the worse, their decisions and/or their additions consume and then ruin their lives. Walter is one of them. My feeling is that each of those people must make a decision as to which road they are going to take, and they do that one day at a time. On the other, people, society, everyone here, and so on, can decide as to accepting the person, giving them another chance, and everything else.

Now that I got that out of the way, we are not talking about a guy who had a great meet, season, or five. We are talking about a guy who showed his talent over the course of a career. A storied, checkered, and controversial career, but a career time-frame, albeit him missing what, 15 to 20 years in the bike. When Walter first came back, I watched him. He did not look good. I think he was struggling with some things---not using or drinking---and it took him the entire first year to find himself again. JMHO. However, in his second year back he shot about 20%, which is pretty good.....but certainly not Walter Case of old numbers. LOL.

Check out Walter's numbers in detail. For a period of 15 years -- 15 years!!! -- the guy won races at a 30% clip!!! 30%!!! 15 years!!! OK, all of them, every single year, he drove for chemists. They knew who wasn't going to be tested. And, btw, more than half those races were fixed! And the Holocaust did not happen. Get my point people?

The year Walter set the wins record, he won almost 1100 races and he won at a 36% clip! Any other driver who drove more wins----and there are only two who have----did so and the highest clip was 25%. OK, so Walter only did close to 50% better than the best ever produced. LOL. After those 15 years, his life fell apart. That discussion and debate is older than dirt. Have at it. I am done with that. Now, even during this peak, his record was still controversial. In his last year driving before he went away, I think he had 200 days of suspensions accumulated. A major # of fines, suspensions, etc. I get it. Much more than most other top drivers.

Anyway, people can argue Walter's talent, or lack of, all they want. It's nothing knew. People have a similar argument about Jack Moiseyev, Dave Palone, Carmine Abbatiello, and others. In full disclosure, I count Walter as a friend. That doesn't mean I defend or justify his actions. I don't. Not at all. I simply accept that he's turned his life around, and makes a decision every day, one day at a time, to fight a demon. A very nasty, deadly demon. Today, he's far from who he was in the 80's, 90's, and before he went away. He's even different, I say better and healthier, than who he was when he got out of jail, and also just five or six years ago. He's grounded today. He's humble, honest, vulnerable. His motivation today seems to be to simply earn a living. For me, he paid the price. He's made a decision. He is fighting for that decision, one day at a time. I admire that. I respect that. My dad wasn't able to do that. So I feel I have some experience with this. Everyone, all of you, get to make your own decision. Some people will simply not forget his past. I get that. To each their own. If that's the case, then there is no price, nothing can be done about his decisions and actions in the past, and nothing can change that. Again, to each their own. Like I said, I accept the decision he's making every day, and while I don't forget his past, I don't condemn him for it today.

My God. You're so starved for attention you just spent a half hour of what you have left of life to type this diatribe about a psychotic drug addict to the same 20 people on the planet who read this garbage about a dead industry? You are the human equivalent of Monticello Raceway. You exist, but nobody cares yet you think they do.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 BTW Monte Sachs had nice things to say about you, always paid on time. Even when he made those runs from the paddock between races.  tmbz1

As for Walter. When he got out and both my wife and I would get him to his mandatory meetings his attitude never changed. When Mark Ford tried to help him with the USTA his attitude again ruined him. When Jeff Gural would accept his requests for meetings at M1 and he didn't show up his attitude ruined him again. When Jason Bartlett sent him money to eat and bought him colors he left the guy endless voicemails screaming at him like a fucking lunatic that Jason takes money out of his pocket. Yeah, great guy.
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Re: Helmet cams and microphones for all drivers.
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2025, 12:59:54 PM »
My God. You're so starved for attention you just spent a half hour of what you have left of life to type this diatribe about a psychotic drug addict to the same 20 people on the planet who read this garbage about a dead industry? You are the human equivalent of Monticello Raceway. You exist, but nobody cares yet you think they do.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 BTW Monte Sachs had nice things to say about you, always paid on time. Even when he made those runs from the paddock between races.  tmbz1

As for Walter. When he got out and both my wife and I would get him to his mandatory meetings his attitude never changed. When Mark Ford tried to help him with the USTA his attitude again ruined him. When Jeff Gural would accept his requests for meetings at M1 and he didn't show up his attitude ruined him again. When Jason Bartlett sent him money to eat and bought him colors he left the guy endless voicemails screaming at him like a fucking lunatic that Jason takes money out of his pocket. Yeah, great guy.

I don't know, nor do I care, whatever it is that makes you so stupid, nasty, angry, bitter, and scorned...but whatever it is...it's working!

You have the right to remain stupid, nasty, angry, bitter, and scorned...and anything you say can and will be ignored. Next.

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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2025, 01:02:17 PM »
My God. You're so starved for attention you just spent a half hour of what you have left of life to type this diatribe about a psychotic drug addict to the same 20 people on the planet who read this garbage about a dead industry? You are the human equivalent of Monticello Raceway. You exist, but nobody cares yet you think they do.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 BTW Monte Sachs had nice things to say about you, always paid on time. Even when he made those runs from the paddock between races.  tmbz1

As for Walter. When he got out and both my wife and I would get him to his mandatory meetings his attitude never changed. When Mark Ford tried to help him with the USTA his attitude again ruined him. When Jeff Gural would accept his requests for meetings at M1 and he didn't show up his attitude ruined him again. When Jason Bartlett sent him money to eat and bought him colors he left the guy endless voicemails screaming at him like a fucking lunatic that Jason takes money out of his pocket. Yeah, great guy.
If they truly knew Walter they would know he's still a alcoholic and his current gf is a pill head so what does that say?... they would also know he has zero morals and is far from trustworthy or honest.  This has nothing to do with his past this is his current life... attitude still sucks. Back talks people and will stab you in the back without hesitation (No pun intended)

 

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