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Speaking of Bill.....is he still training? I met the guy once or twice, and I don't follow him at all, but I will say.....that guy always did very well, training just a few horses for himself.
You talk to him here Grandstand. My understanding is Samstar is Bill Bercury. Still a massive high percentage trainer. Don't know why he gets such a hard time here.
Tim is a lifer. He comes from the John Burns school. Early on when Burnsy was training for Harold Shipp, Tim was the stable driver. Tim has had a good career. He's a good horsemen.