A A RON DEFENSE FUND

[JENNY FROM THE BLOCK]

he doesnt have a problem.  just ask him.  you cant help someone who doesnt want to help himself.  he should of been in treatment already. a judge would see that as someone who is remorseful and wanting to better themselves.
i wonder if he has to wear an alcohol monitor on his ankle.

[Bitter Truth]

Jenny if you go to the 'Asking for a friend' thread , page 18, I looked up and detail the penalties
[alcohol monitoring included] 'IF' indeed this is his 4th DUI.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Don't forget, private property rights baby.

Here's the way an OH attorney explained it-----oversimplified-----when charged/arrested, the racing commission has the authority to suspend his license immediately. If they do, he will appeal, sue (due process and all), whatever; and probably win, get a stay, etc. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. If they don't suspend his license, OK, your license is fine, for the time being. NOW, the tracks themselves----with private ownership----they appear to have private property rights. They can say your license fine, but we don't want you. If they do, he can sue, but winning that is a tougher lift. If there is a documented history as to other reasons why they tossed him, even better, and for him to win is even tougher. Conduct that is detrimental to their business. Document it every time. Is it this simple? No, of course not. But it can give an idea as to how this may play out.

Personally, and I am not referring to this case, I never thought racing's governing bodies and the tracks did enough. In so many of the cases I've seen, trainers who got suspended always got some high-powered attorney, and the state, commission, and/or the track, got some hack and they got their a$$ handed to them (most of the time). Gural doesn't play like that. He plays to win and he hires killers who do win. Where's Howard Taylor by the way? Nevermind.

Apparently privately-held/owned businesses appear to have different rules here on this BB than they do in the real world, but it's the real world that counts. 

[Call Sign Merlin]

did the ravens wait until ray rice was found guilty to cut him?
did the chiefs wait until kareem hunt was found guilty to cut him?
did the NBA wait until ja morant was found guilty to suspend him?
did the texans wait until deshaun watson was found guilty to sit him?
some of these people git second chances which i msure aaron will. but they were sat down before any verdict or even legal action was taken.

All these people were employed by these teams or agencies and the individual was placed on paid leave while the court proceedings played out.  This is not an equivalent. 

As Grandstand correctly stated - the tracks and commissions aren’t going to get over their skis for fear of a lawsuit.  Why spend the money defending a lawsuit now when it appears that on short order, once he is convicted, they will have the ability to do what they want with more standing - assuming bylaws contain something that can support a suspension.

I don’t know why everyone is so wrapped up in what the tracks and jurisdictions are doing when the trainers could solve this tomorrow.  He has a drive in every race at both tracks every night and has since the incident

[JENNY FROM THE BLOCK]

i just dont think his drive checks come from bill bercury or bill rhoades.  he isnt paid directly by them. they may request he drive their horses for whatever the reason.

[Harness racer]

Business is full of scumbags with no morals.  People still put up Allard to drive.  What's that tell you about the business?  Trainers want the best driver, no matter if he's a pedophile or a drunk who has no respect for anyone.  What has Nance called it for years?  DEAD GAME LADDIES!!!

[moelarrythecheese]

Windows Tint? It’s Northfield, Ohio,not Death Valley.