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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2025, 11:52:21 AM »
Catwoman has joined forces with The Joker and The Riddler.
Pocono Downs
Tuesday race 14 #6, Pat Stanley N
Owner Jennifer Bongiorno
Trainer Lou Peña
Driver Simon Allard

I have to say, while I am not the type who always sees a conspiracy, this is an eyebrow raise. I still say Pena will be a non-factor, but if these two are an alliance, that could be something. I hope it's not.

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2025, 01:12:36 PM »
It’s something, just wait.  Peñas list of dirtbag owners is getting longer.  Not what it once was, but more than it has been.

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2025, 06:23:03 PM »
Father thrown out a million times, will rob you once the door is open.  Stole millions from paddock people yet the guy still shows his face knowing he's protected (probably by Frasure).
 Uneducated owners come on in, there will be plenty of private sales staged to rob you.  Daughter will do anything to get the money, team with any undesirable or animal abusing persons but will post pics to make it appear she loves the animals.  Joe is just a chip off the block but probably the most likeable one.  Mother plays dumb but knows exactly what's going on.  Hundred chances by Gural to let the family race.  What else do we need to add?

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #48 on: March 04, 2025, 07:36:24 PM »
Father thrown out a million times, will rob you once the door is open.  Stole millions from paddock people yet the guy still shows his face knowing he's protected (probably by Frasure).
 Uneducated owners come on in, there will be plenty of private sales staged to rob you.  Daughter will do anything to get the money, team with any undesirable or animal abusing persons but will post pics to make it appear she loves the animals.  Joe is just a chip off the block but probably the most likeable one.  Mother plays dumb but knows exactly what's going on.  Hundred chances by Gural to let the family race.  What else do we need to add?
Don’t care much for any of the family. But y’all keep saying Bob stole millions from others. And want to blame Gural for not prosecuting. He is a track owner not DA. If someone stole my money I would be going after them not the track owner where he races

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2025, 04:47:15 PM »
I just find it amazing he walks around the paddocks and no one has the nerve to do something as far as Mr Gural he's very forgiving with that family

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2025, 05:33:53 PM »
The guy had a BK and that played out the way it played out. Plenty of people declared bankruptcy, and seamlessly, with zero interruption stayed in business. All they did was change the name of their operating business. OK, so this was a personal BK. What the daughter did, didn't do, what the son did, didn't do----has nothing to do with dad and his license.

Listen, I am not a fan of his at all, but what did he exactly do that commands being banned from the industry? Is he a convicted felon? If he stole money from people, was he found guilty. The DA of NJ is no wallflower. He's a serious crimefighter. So is the US Attorney for NJ. Him even more. So what did Bob do? Positive tests? More than others. Do I think the business would be better off without him? Yes, I do. But you can't ban him for that. Can Gural ban someone simply because he wants to? Yes, he can. But without real cause, real standing, just by saying private property rights, to me, that's a slippery slope. Also, if you simply say "conduct detrimental to business"----that is purely subjective and open to debate in litigation. So if you have a reason to ban him, make it a very, very good one. That said, even though I say good riddance, I'd like to hear why.

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2025, 03:57:06 PM »
The bottom line is many owners flock to the high percentage trainers. They have been doing this for years & years. Sadly a good part of them don't need the money. The greed has killed the sport. This family exemplifies what is wrong with sport.

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2025, 07:58:21 PM »
I'm seeing a Deborah Daguet listed as trainer for Jenn's horses.

Could become the next hot young trainer; perhaps another  Dolores Basilone?

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2025, 08:03:04 PM »
I think Trond gave Bob like 600k to invest and got burned really bad

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2025, 09:26:52 PM »
I think Trond gave Bob like 600k to invest and got burned really bad

Trond didn't have 600K to give.  That money came from Wanda - They duped her.

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2025, 09:31:42 PM »
I'm seeing a Deborah Daguet listed as trainer for Jenn's horses.

Could become the next hot young trainer; perhaps another  Dolores Basilone?

Deborah has been around for a while.  She was involved with Allard and also Peña (I think).

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #56 on: March 07, 2025, 05:11:14 AM »
Deborah is Lou’s girlfriend as well as training and owning some together partners. They have been out at wind gap for years. Lou still has a glass of Hennessy in his hand on most nights . Helps him sleep .

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Re: Bongiorno
« Reply #57 on: March 07, 2025, 11:14:39 PM »
Pyramid scheme to grind purse money away from owners

 

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