Pat Crowe died...

[Grandstand Handicapper]

another side note about Nihilator--he had help

often there were 3 and 4 horse entries as Haughton also had Pershing Square, Chairman of the board and another decent 3yo setting picks and causing traffic problems for the others trying to beat Nihilator

I lived near Garden St Park and went a lot, I was there the night Armbro Dallas driven by Ron Waples upset Nihilator at about 80-1

the following week Nihilator destroyed the field in the final as if he was angry for losing

Very true. More than Haughton, Lou Guida had a very deep bench that year. Just in the Meadowlands Pace, Guida had a five horse entry-----Nihilator, Chairmanoftheboar d, Pershing Square, Primus, and Handsome Sum. Guida/Haughton won two of the three eliminations. Here's a trivia question for the veterans who may have been there.....Do you remember who won the third elimination? Here's a hint, it was not a Haughton OR Guida horse.

And, that same year, Guida also had Flight of Fire with Mickey McNichol and Joe Caraluzzi.

Hey, in the final.....as a bettor.....if you are very confident, you get a 5% ROR on a five horse entry to show!?!?! LOL.

[Bitter Truth]

BJ Scoot held off a four horse Guida entry and Albert Albert to win
the 1988 Jug. Mike LaChance piked him..53.4 to half

[Papillon]

BJ Scoot held off a four horse Guida entry and Albert Albert to win
the 1988 Jug. Mike LaChance piked him..53.4 to half

a very gutsy winning effort by BJ Scoot--under heavy pressure the entire mile

[Oliver Clozoff]

I remember the time Bo Scots Bluechip beat him at Monti.  I think it was a Monticello Pace elim.  Very conservative drive by Pat that day, lol.  Rest in Peace.  He did an amazing job with one of themost impactful horses and sires of all time.

[JT]

a very gutsy winning effort by BJ Scoot--under heavy pressure the entire mile

As I've said before it was a great effort by LaChance and BJ Scoot. But that drive by Boring on Albert Albert was wretched.. one of the worst I've ever seen in person in that big of a race.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

BJ Scoot held off a four horse Guida entry and Albert Albert to win
the 1988 Jug. Mike LaChance piked him..53.4 to half

First Ohio bred to ever win the LBJ. That was the horse that really made Tom Artandi well known on the national/NA stage. It took a lot of guts to buy an Ohio bred for $250,000 (US) at the time. BJ Scoot's success really gave Artandi a lot of recognition and the firepower to come back and buy Goalie Jeff the next year.....yes, from George Berkner! He paid a lot more him though, LOL. But, Artandi won the JBG with him too! Jack Howell owned BJ Scoot as a 2yo, and the dam, Terry's Woe, who was a hell of a mare. She was something like a 100% producer of foals in 155 at the time. I think BJ Scoot's Jug win was his most impressive. Chris Boring getting parked to the half in 53 and 4 was brutal.


BJ Scoot tried to come back as a 4yo, but only raced a few times. He just wasn't good. He came back at 5 too, but he was a shadow of his former self.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

a very gutsy winning effort by BJ Scoot--under heavy pressure the entire mile

I think it was even more gutsy, more impressive, etc., when you take everything into consideration-----yes, the pressure, Western Hanover, the entry, etc. Artandi really had this colt prepped and peaked for this race as it was his premier race. First OH bred ever and that kind of put OH breds on the national stage map. Sure, there were always some pretty good Falcon Almahurst's that came out of OH, but this one stepping up to tangle with the best in class really cemented it. Plus, at the time, they had a sire stakes program for aged horses, which certainly didn't hurt, LOL.

[Bitter Truth]

Western Hanover was '92. This was '88.

[BigBen7]

That was an incredible comeback win
Who was the announcer?

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I think it was even more gutsy, more impressive, etc., when you take everything into consideration-----yes, the pressure, Western Hanover, the entry, etc. Artandi really had this colt prepped and peaked for this race as it was his premier race. First OH bred ever and that kind of put OH breds on the national stage map. Sure, there were always some pretty good Falcon Almahurst's that came out of OH, but this one stepping up to tangle with the best in class really cemented it. Plus, at the time, they had a sire stakes program for aged horses, which certainly didn't hurt, LOL.

Western Hanover was '92. This was '88.

You are correct. I tried to quote two different posts and I cut and pasted the wrong sentence. Thanks.

BJ Scoot's Jug was up for grabs, IMO. Guida had the four horse entry-----one being Camtastic, and another being Threefold. BJ Scoot was his elim and of course Albert Albert won the second, and Camtastic won the third.

Western Hanover's Jug was a different story, LOL. He was gunning for the Triple Crown. Ironically, Mickey McNichol was supposed to drive Fake Left, and he went down earlier in the card and went to the hospital. So here comes Ron Waples. You may not like him, or think he was a good driver, but he was a very sharp, and shrewd, driver. This was Western Hanover's race to lose, kind of. I hate that expression, LOL, but it kind of was. Fahy let Ron go and when they hit the stretch, the battle was on. Obviously, it did not go Western Hanover's way.

[Bitter Truth]

Not sure how many years they used them but the Fake Left yr and for sure the next year,
Life Sign's year, the slanted shaft bike [sure there was a specific name for them] I'm sure
someone can enlighten me on the name and the length of their use. I seem to recall Campbell
playing a part of the removal of their use.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Not sure how many years they used them but the Fake Left yr and for sure the next year,
Life Sign's year, the slanted shaft bike [sure there was a specific name for them] I'm sure
someone can enlighten me on the name and the length of their use. I seem to recall Campbell
playing a part of the removal of their use.

Yes, when they first came out they were often referred to as the "bent-shaft" bike. After the quick-hitch, the bent-shaft bike got a lot of people thinking about lift, drag, and all that scientific stuff, LOL. The shaft ran down, from the front, down the side of the horse, not parallel (to the ground), but angled slightly downward (toward the ground), and then "bent" downward on an angle, to the body of the bike. That bike really prompted new ideas, new technology, new bikes, etc. The four horse race-off/final heat was a real battle as soon as Billy Fahy got out of the pocket. The moment the race was over, I remember saying, the best horse did not win that race, but the best driver did. Like I said, you may not like Ron Waples, or think he's a good driver. But, he's smart, and shrewd. A real sharp horseman, all around. When he finally cleared, he didn't start to back it down right away. He waited. He wanted to back it down through the turn, and he got what he wanted when Jeff Fout came first up on Gamma Ray. It was a very smart drive.

[Papillon]

Not sure how many years they used them but the Fake Left yr and for sure the next year,
Life Sign's year, the slanted shaft bike [sure there was a specific name for them] I'm sure
someone can enlighten me on the name and the length of their use. I seem to recall Campbell
playing a part of the removal of their use.

the Cheetah


Campbell didn't like  it and said remove it

[JT]

Yes, when they first came out they were often referred to as the "bent-shaft" bike. After the quick-hitch, the bent-shaft bike got a lot of people thinking about lift, drag, and all that scientific stuff, LOL. The shaft ran down, from the front, down the side of the horse, not parallel (to the ground), but angled slightly downward (toward the ground), and then "bent" downward on an angle, to the body of the bike. That bike really prompted new ideas, new technology, new bikes, etc. The four horse race-off/final heat was a real battle as soon as Billy Fahy got out of the pocket. The moment the race was over, I remember saying, the best horse did not win that race, but the best driver did. Like I said, you may not like Ron Waples, or think he's a good driver. But, he's smart, and shrewd. A real sharp horseman, all around. When he finally cleared, he didn't start to back it down right away. He waited. He wanted to back it down through the turn, and he got what he wanted when Jeff Fout came first up on Gamma Ray. It was a very smart drive.

The best horse definitely did not win that race.. One of the most exciting races I've watched in person. Fake Left before the LBJ that year had raced in the jug preview at Scioto a week and a half earlier and if memory serves he got dead last in that race.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

The best horse definitely did not win that race.. One of the most exciting races I've watched in person. Fake Left before the LBJ that year had raced in the jug preview at Scioto a week and a half earlier and if memory serves he got dead last in that race.

Agreed, absolutely. Fake Left was a check getter in minor stakes at best 3yo. He was for sale for a good portion of the year.....up until the Jug of course, LOL. He was so-so, and once he got to Duquoin and/or Springfield, George Sholty raced him on bute, and they decided to put him on the front end as well. He did turn the corner and moved forward for sure, but he was second-tier until the Jug. Yes, he did race in the Jug Preview, which was 12 days before (on a Saturday) the Jug. I think you're right, he was last or second to last. Regardless, the Jug final heat was a very exciting race. I was happy for George Sholty as I was always a fan of his, but I was disappointed for Gene Riegle who was looking to win his first Jug, which being from OH was the race he always wanted to win.