Karl on Karl

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Like I said, 4th grade education is biting you in the ass. I don't expect you to understand. If posting out of context replies helps you prove your point, go ahead.

[The Answer]

Update straight from Nancy on Harness Racing Update is that he is in training and will race this year and they collected enough semen for 75 to 80 mares and that will be it for breeding this year. Karl is mentioned around the 4 or 5 minute mark.

https://youtu.be/RPG_-VrHOc0?si=V2QyfSymk8yk2NuA

Not breeding any this year. Its frozen till next year and from what I have heard enough to get about 40 mares in foal if they are lucky.

[JT]

Not breeding any this year. Its frozen till next year and from what I have heard enough to get about 40 mares in foal if they are lucky.

Correct about the breeding this year as I misspoke that they are freezing it, but Nancy did say there was enough for 75 to 80 mares. Whether that's accurate I guess we will find out next year. 

[Stan durbread]

Correct about the breeding this year as I misspoke that they are freezing it, but Nancy did say there was enough for 75 to 80 mares. Whether that's accurate I guess we will find out next year. 

If he could breed 80 mares at top dollar stud fee. There would be no reason to try to bring him back after a 60% year if hind suspensory. At 30k he would only need 40 foals to make more than he can racing, not even factoring in the lameness

[Grandstand Handicapper]

If he could breed 80 mares at top dollar stud fee. There would be no reason to try to bring him back after a 60% year if hind suspensory. At 30k he would only need 40 foals to make more than he can racing, not even factoring in the lameness

30k? No offense to the horse, but at 30k, he'd be standing there all breeding season long watching every other stallion do their thing. 

[The Answer]

30k is a reach but could easily get 20k. With Muscle Hill just about done and Tactical Approach shooting blanks a Muscle line sure is needed.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

They weren't going to get 20k when they first retired him. I get the pedigree piece of it, but the market still has to bear and accept the number. I get that last time they were trying to syndicate him, and the number is going to correlate with the share price, but they did not get a favorable reaction to 15k or higher. Who knows what they'll do now. Set aside Chapter Seven and Walner, and you have how many stallions more than 10k? Three? Four? I don't play the hypothetical breeding game, but the demand was just not there.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Btw, I think Bowen got hyped up on the horse and pressed the pen a bit too hard.

[Parked]

Evidently they have been drawing him but have just maybe 50 straws frozen so he sure is not a powerhouse sperm producer.   How many breeders want to take a chance with their great mares on a poor quality sperm stud that was lame most of his races??  Maybe give him a try on a mare that is in heat in February and March and then move on.  The contract would have to have that clause written in. 

[The Answer]

They weren't going to get 20k when they first retired him. I get the pedigree piece of it, but the market still has to bear and accept the number. I get that last time they were trying to syndicate him, and the number is going to correlate with the share price, but they did not get a favorable reaction to 15k or higher. Who knows what they'll do now. Set aside Chapter Seven and Walner, and you have how many stallions more than 10k? Three? Four? I don't play the hypothetical breeding game, but the demand was just not there.

Tactile Landing 25k Tactile Approach 12k Gimpanzee 20k TCI in Ohio 10k all
with books full and closed their first year

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I don't think you can compare Karl to Tactical Landing. Two very different stallions.....and at 5k apart?

[Gaagoots]

Does anyone care about the horse Karl anymore?

Many other horses to follow this upcoming season!!

Are you still getting PAID by Karl’s entourage to promote him?

Karl was a nice horse and deserves recognition. I happen to care about Karl and enjoyed watching him race.

[The Answer]

I don't think you can compare Karl to Tactical Landing. Two very different stallions.....and at 5k apart?

Racing wise you are correct Tactical Landing did nothing but break as a two year old while Karl won over a million bucks! Breeding wise you are incorrect as Tactical Landing is the SIRE of Karl

[Miguel_Sanchez]

I stand by every post. I want to thank you for reposting those works of art, as Karl is not done writing his resume.

Karl will get his head caved in even worse than last yr.  My prediction is he will qua two or three times and have a mysterious injury and retire.  Jimmy knows he didn't get bigger or faster and will be even further behind to all the horses that grew and got better.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Karl will get his head caved in even worse than last yr.  My prediction is he will qua two or three times and have a mysterious injury and retire.  Jimmy knows he didn't get bigger or faster and will be even further behind to all the horses that grew and got better.

LOL. Yeah Karl has really gotten his head caved in.18 wins and 3 places in 23 starts. Only trotter in history to earn over 1 million at 2 and 1 million at 3. My only question to you is...Drugs? Alcohol? Both?