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Re: "Ray" Schnittker
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2025, 10:33:36 AM »
Say what you want about SCM, I think he is an attention seeker and wants pats on the back…but there is absolutely no denying that horse is fucking crippled.  It almost falls several times and he just keeps pushing it.  Ray should be ashamed of himself and this needs to be looked into.  I don’t necessarily like the way Mike goes about it, but he definitely brings stuff to light that no one else does.

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2025, 12:49:04 PM »
Ray is a trainer of Champions, stop judging and questioning his horsemanship,, start worrying about anonymous jealous keyboard warriors making accusations to destroy respectable horsemen.!!

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2025, 01:11:55 PM »
Ray is a trainer of Champions, stop judging and questioning his horsemanship,, start worrying about anonymous jealous keyboard warriors making accusations to destroy respectable horsemen.!!

Sorry but the video cannot be unseen or canceled. Are you saying it should be disregarded?

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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2025, 02:45:05 PM »
Sorry but the video cannot be unseen or canceled. Are you saying it should be disregarded?

I admire Mike's passion and caring about horses. I think his methods and how he conducts himself are despicable. Here's my take.....no, absolutely not, the video should not be disregarded. However, before we get into that, even before anyone talks about the video, I think there is a very important precursor element to this. That element is, standing, credibility, stature, and reputation in the sport and industry. Why? Because when an explanation or whatever is finally offered, I think those things are important so that you know "where" and "from who" that is coming from. Is it credible? Is the person credible? What is their reputation, stature, etc.? And no, the opinions about that, here on a BB count for $hit.

Ray Schnittker is a professional, licensed trainer/driver. He has operated his own, well known, successful, public stable for the better part of 40 years or so. Perhaps more. A man who has been in an industry for 40 years. Ray has risen to the highest levels of the sport. He's won both the Hambletonian and the Meadowlands Pace, was also Trainer of the Year, and unless his term expired, he is a Director of USTA. And Mike, is who? What? What has he done, reputation, credibility, and stature-wise in this sport and industry.

Don't tell me about self-authored claims, self-claimed importance, visions of grandeur, and self-generated accomplishments, etc. Show me objective, third-party substantiation, not first party self-authored. Remember, Mike has never been "included" or "invited" into any of the situations he speaks about or claims results for. He's not considered an expert, a resource, or a go to person for anyone or the sport or industry. He "inserted" himself into and "involved" himself in these situations. Listen, like I said, I admire his caring for horses. I wish more people had that. However, I feel that in many situations he gets involved when he shouldn't, and most of the times, he simply takes it way too far. I think his methods and how he conducts himself are atrocious. You cannot be a self-proclaimed policeman, prosecutor, and judge and then demand and look to hand out justice just because. You cannot attack, harass, and accuse people unconditionally.

Do we need whistleblowers? Absolutely. But who that whistleblower is and how they conduct themselves is absolutely important. If you don't think standing, credibility, stature, and reputation have anything to do with this, I respectfully disagree.

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2025, 02:47:45 PM »
As far as the video, if someone wants to take it and turn it into the proper authorities, so be it. I wouldn't argue with that. But don't blame if the outcome is not what you want. More importantly, don't be vindictive about it.

That said, I know Ray for a long time. Me, I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but still expect an explanation IF the proper authorities were the ones asking for it.

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2025, 09:07:27 AM »
As far as the video, if someone wants to take it and turn it into the proper authorities, so be it. I wouldn't argue with that. But don't blame if the outcome is not what you want. More importantly, don't be vindictive about it.

That said, I know Ray for a long time. Me, I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but still expect an explanation IF the proper authorities were the ones asking for it.

Really? Already sent to NYS Gaming. As for being vindictive? You still mad we got your messages to Faraldo? And as for Ray, what business did he have last year attacking a man for doing business with me? Why not ask Ray how many times over the years I've had any issues with him? Last time I saw Ray he invited me to the barn for coffee and asked me what my asshole brother was up to. Is he upset I called out his minion Steve Jones? So he thinks he can take it upon himself to actually interfere with me earning a living? Yet you sit here like a fucking coward calling ME vindictive. What was said about "Mr. Jones" and killing mares at Fords was confirmed by the same NYS Police investigator I called to initiate the Bourgault case. Lemme ask you, when the new race secretary at M1 is hired, do you think he will let you control the MADC entries again??? Just sayin'.  ngc3
Read, this is a real stand up guy. Fucking coward has NEVER approached me directly.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2025, 11:58:51 AM »
The phone rang, the person on the other end "whom I know" furious the bike went back on this horse today. Hey Ray? Wouldn't you like to know who feeds me info..... ngc3
https://youtube.com/shorts/vF-_yeLrrBU?feature=share
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2025, 12:16:47 PM »
The phone rang, the person on the other end "whom I know" furious the bike went back on this horse today. Hey Ray? Wouldn't you like to know who feeds me info..... ngc3
https://youtube.com/shorts/vF-_yeLrrBU?feature=share

 Oh wow,
 
 If this ISN'T a call for help, I don't know what is. People, who are mentally unwell, post this stuff on a forum with delusions of grandeur sprinkled in.
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2025, 12:56:29 PM »
Oh wow,
 
 If this ISN'T a call for help, I don't know what is. People, who are mentally unwell, post this stuff on a forum with delusions of grandeur sprinkled in.

Aww are people fed up with horse abusers like you? Pathetic is here you are concerned with what I do....it's called fear.  tmbz1
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2025, 03:57:53 PM »
As far as the video, if someone wants to take it and turn it into the proper authorities, so be it. I wouldn't argue with that. But don't blame if the outcome is not what you want. More importantly, don't be vindictive about it.

That said, I know Ray for a long time. Me, I would give him the benefit of the doubt, but still expect an explanation IF the proper authorities were the ones asking for it.
Relax nobody listen to his bullshit.

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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2025, 04:03:05 PM »
Guess what harness racing wannabe entrepreneur/detective drove around with a life-size baby doll in the backseat of his car when he was in his 20s?

Hint : He’s on YouTube constantly announcing everybody that got a positive test or went to jail. He’s also known to have a tape recorder his pocket.

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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2025, 05:51:43 PM »
Look at real people ripping on Ray. Not like you cyber twats hiding. And yes, Albany is all over it. Let's see what happens.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HQHUCAw5T/
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2025, 06:15:35 PM »
Look at real people ripping on Ray. Not like you cyber twats hiding. And yes, Albany is all over it. Let's see what happens.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HQHUCAw5T/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1612Gc1Gwe/
Yet I’m breaking my ass paying bills while you’re sneaking around between two garbage dumpsters videotaping Ray how sad is that!

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Re: "Ray" Schnittker
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2025, 06:31:53 PM »
You said it was the same lame horse he was training. You must’ve been in Ray’s barn and read the horses tattoo!

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2025, 06:44:10 PM »
No matter what you think, its hard to defend

 

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