Yes Or No....Is This Horse Lame????

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Without all the bullshit. Watch the video and respond with a simple yes or no. Even add would you have gone the whole mile or not. Video is half speed.
https://youtube.com/shorts/8C4pDhOWX9Q?feature=share

[Harness racer]

Yes!

That horse was lame and they knew before he walked onto the track.  My guess is he doesn’t even walk without a nod.

[SwankToliverA]

Yes the horse is lame.

[LWC]

Yes. Most definitely. But I'd want to know more before throwing stones. If horse is blowing a hoof abscess a good mile can be the quickest way to get it out. And they feel instantly better once its out.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Yes. Most definitely. But I'd want to know more before throwing stones. If horse is blowing a hoof abscess a good mile can be the quickest way to get it out. And they feel instantly better once its out.

Two different trips 6 days apart is what you're seeing. Think there's any progress?

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Crippled

[JT]

 Yes and it's sickening to watch, my families former trainer would have NEVER done that to any of his horses.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Yes and it's sickening to watch, my families former trainer would have NEVER done that to any of his horses.

The first time was bad enough. The second time was so bad I got tipped off by someone on the backstretch telling me he was going out in a bike again, this was six days after the first trip. I ran to catch it. He's a real piece of trash, I don't care what excuse they come up with.

[Onthefront11]

The same guy that would call out cheaters but would do anything for a dollar

[LWC]

"Two different trips 6 days apart is what you're seeing. Think there's any progress?"

Nope.  I wouldnt go a trip with an abscessed one unless I was 99.9% sure that exactly what it was and only then after softening and preparing the hoof overnight and, hopefully, having it start draining on its own.

I wouldnt stress anything musculoskeletal for sure.  Heck, we don't even "pop" curbs anymore before freezing.

[bond]

Yes

However since the poster has treated this as judge and jury id like to hear from the other side
Isn’t Rays wife a veterinarian?? Wouldn’t they know not to work a horse if they thought it would harm him?
I’ve been to Rays place and it’s a beautiful operation and horses look beautiful— I’d like to hear from them as to what is going on before making a conclusion
I also respect Ray as he pulled Steve Star across his desk and called him a mfucker to his face when Starr screwed him. Someone like that deserves a hearing

[kantseeback]

Yes

However since the poster has treated this as judge and jury id like to hear from the other side
Isn’t Rays wife a veterinarian?? Wouldn’t they know not to work a horse if they thought it would harm him?
I’ve been to Rays place and it’s a beautiful operation and horses look beautiful— I’d like to hear from them as to what is going on before making a conclusion
I also respect Ray as he pulled Steve Star across his desk and called him a mfucker to his face when Starr screwed him. Someone like that deserves a hearing

Campbell Hall NY

[HayDaze]

maybe legit, maybe just a edited video to make it look and sound bad. Nowadays I dont trust much especially from this site. Have no idea who really posted the video, so I question the source unless they were verified.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

maybe legit, maybe just a edited video to make it look and sound bad. Nowadays I dont trust much especially from this site. Have no idea who really posted the video, so I question the source unless they were verified.

I agree, it's obviously AI generated. And who knows how it was obtained or who shot the video. That might not even be Ray in the bike or Goshen for all we know.

[wiseowl]

It is none of your concern you useless cock sucker get a job do something to help your self you retard.