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I can't remember the name but several years ago someone came up with an interesting way to distribute the purse in a race. It was pretty complicated but in the end, owners were paid a percentage of the money bet on the horse. 
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    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.
No doubt that harness racing has a lot of cheaters/crooks within it's ranks. But after watching the NFL so far, it's hard to believe that the NFL's referees aren't corrupt, blind, or just stupid. LOL!
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Harness Racing / Re: Ford must resign
« Last post by Yonkers1A on Today at 05:04:11 PM »
Day 178, Ford must resign.
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Harness Racing / Re: Hoosier Park
« Last post by pocketrocketwinner on Today at 04:37:17 PM »
When a track talks about handle increases and provides zero transparency of caw %, it is a complete slap in the face to every single one of their retail players

I treat the following as gospel.

If the increase was from retail handle and was subsequently in our favor, they couldn't write to tell us that fast enough.

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Harness Racing / Re: Hoosier Park
« Last post by seriously on Today at 03:33:11 PM »
They can inch their handle up all they want, but until a new class of individuals start to be the participants in front of the fans, the end is the same, failure without incredible subsidy. 
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Harness Racing / Re: Hoosier Park
« Last post by LUCPARK on Today at 03:31:04 PM »
Pruitt and Morris

Turn theirs   Heads
at the citrus growers

I love when they hand out yr end awards with a straight face
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3


Better than the old WWF

 tmbz1
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The losers are the supporters and want to bet the BigM  tmbz1:

He supports cheats, yes, all over his track.  tmbz1

He allows CAW, yes and it's horrible for the gambler.  tmbz1

He has been unsuccessful in getting a casino since he started 14 years ago, yes.  tmbz1

Are gamblers and honest horseman, horses getting fucked at the BigM, yes.  tmbz1

Case fucking closed scumbags!   ;D
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Harness Racing / Re: Hoosier Park
« Last post by Grandstand Handicapper on Today at 02:03:59 PM »
If in fact they did have a 25% increase in handle, no, I don't think it has to do with the on-air product/offering/show. Maybe they lowered their takeout, maybe they cut a (new) deal with a CAW group, maybe nobody knows, LOL. Let's see what happens.

Lower the takeout, very substantially, wait, seriously wait, and watch what happens.
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    Well, there are some sick dumbass haters on here that think harness racing is the only corrupt sport and want it to go away.

That's not a surprise. It's kind of like the party you are not invited to, LOL.
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Attn: all Big M haters, there has and will never be a better track that ever existed that even comes close to comparing to the meadowlands. It’s the Mecca of the sport and will always be. Give Mr. Gural credit for investing in this place because if the big m goes the entire industry will follow. Wise up.

Like some, maybe a few, I've been at the Meadowlands since it opened. Like many, while I am a "supporter" of Gural and what he's trying to do, I do not agree with everything he's done and how he goes about doing various things. I support him getting a casino. I give Gural credit for what he's done at the Meadowlands. I couldn't care less if he-----as people accuse him of-----whines, bitches, moans, etc. However, as it relates to "the product" being offered, the quality, and his position on CAW, I absolutely do not agree with any of what/where he's at. There is another meeting coming up in January on the CAW issue. The last meeting yielded some positive discussion. Whatever the outcome of this next meeting is, I don't know if he will implement any substantial, long-term action step on this or not.
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