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Harness Racing / I ran into my old buddy Bob Belcher at the sale!
« Last post by G on Today at 09:48:49 AM »
The Goshen sale at Mark Ford’s farm was a meeting place for old friends.  I ran into my old buddy from Northfield Park Bob Belcher who bought a couple of yearlings he has a stable racing in Ohio under his friend’s name. Bobby and I go way back. We had a lot of fun together cashing tickets.
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Harness Racing / Re: The BC Elims at Scioto
« Last post by JT on Today at 09:45:20 AM »
Hey BT, thanks for the picks
Better card tonight
The attendance tonight will be bad also
Very cold, but dry at least
OSU plays Indiana today
CBJ plays tonight, that will be a sellout because they are playing the New Your Rangers
Also Twenty One Pilots..a Columbus band is playing at the Horseshoe tonight
The hockey game and that concert = 80,000  people easily
Also yes the m/l on some of these are awful
Loua Dipa 7-1  ngc3
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Thoroughbred Racing / Re: Zenyatta's Daily Carryover Lounge
« Last post by Trigger on Today at 09:45:01 AM »
Today's Carryovers 10/17/26
+ 8:02 PM R3 Charles Town
Jackpot PK6: $23,898
+ 4:04 PM R1 Sunset PK6
PK6: $17,831
+ 3:48 PM R6 Woodbine TBred
Jackpot PK6: $12,454
+ 2:25 PM R5 Gulfstream Park
Jackpot PK6: $6,316
+ 12:35 PM R2 Caymanas
PK8: $3,594
+ 8:43 PM R7 Flamboro Downs (H)
PK5: $2,689
+ 12:50 PM R1 Caymanas
PK9: $2,317
+ 3:00 PM R10 Saratoga Harness
PK5: $1,859
+ FIN R1 UK Newton Abbot
PK6: $1,011
+ 1:39 PM R4 Laurel
Jackpot PK6: $643
+ 9:41 PM R7 Lone Star Park
Jackpot PK6: $629
+ 26 MIN R3 IRE Leopardstown
PK4: $583
+ 8:34 PM R8 Northfield Park (H)
PK6: $563
+ 11:23 AM R1 UK Southwell
PK6: $441
+ FIN R3 UK Newton Abbot
PK4: $171
+ 12:45 AM R8 Japan
PK5: $131
+ 8:35 PM R1 Century Mile (H)
PK5: $121
+ 12:30 PM R3 UK Southwell
PK4: $13
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Harness Racing / Re: Breeders Crown Night 1 Summary
« Last post by JT on Today at 09:39:11 AM »
Breeders Crown held in late October in the north at a facility without a climate controlled grandstand. Very smart! Nobody in harness racing cares about the customer/fan.
The new grandstand is very nice
October is weird here in central Ohio
It can snow this time of year, tonight is going to be our first frost..or you can have it like 2 days ago when it was over 80 degrees  ngc3
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Harness Racing / Re: The BC Elims at Scioto
« Last post by Kenny on Today at 09:36:48 AM »
What a fucking joke. Didn't even handle 700K. Harness Racing is dead. If I was younger, I would take a shot with some T-Breds.

Breeders Crown held in late October in the north at a facility without a climate controlled grandstand. Very smart! Nobody in harness racing cares about the customer/fan.

The weather has been bad many times at the Breeders Crown.
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Harness Racing / Re: The BC Elims at Scioto
« Last post by Bitter Truth on Today at 09:34:41 AM »
Knock on wood, the weather is slated to be great next week. Won't help the handle tremendously
but will certainly bolster the attendance, which wouldn't take much. In fairness,as you know all too
well JT, it was a cold blustery day/night yesterday around here. As you said, that 2yr old colt pace
is going to be a wing dinger. Both Blazin Lou and Starstruck Dreamer were 'OUSTANDING' but Shalom
will be better. Needed that start last night. Wrong Sounds Right and Lifetime Dreamer also look to
be horses that will be tough to beat.
Tonight: Obvious horses for me.
Race 5 #2 Emoticon Legacy: Seemed to love this track just recently.

Race7 #2 Big Ranger Back at home and gets Lasix back.

Race9 #5 Redland Rocket Man The Now horse. prepping for his big showdown with BB.

Race10 #3 The before mentioned Brandon Blvd. The class of the division all year.

Race11 #2 Ervin Hanover Looks to get back on track. Will be tough to beat from that post.
9/2 m/l is a joke

Good luck.
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Harness Racing / Re: Breeders Crown Night 1 Summary
« Last post by Kenny on Today at 09:34:11 AM »
Everyone on here knows I was there last night since I live in Delaware
So a few brief observations..

The crowd was awful. I know the weather sucked, like really sucked, but I was shocked there weren't more people in the clubhouse at least. It was half full. Grandstand was empty, maybe 20 people including my brother and I freezing our asses off ngc3
I always stick up for my state, but that was pitiful Ohio.

The handle sucked, about $700,000. I don't think there was any CAW in play which is good for the gambler but bad for optics if anyone truly cares in the first place The post drag was awful, but was expected

The races were kind of average. That is to be expected with eliminations where making the final is really the only goal. The track crew did a good job. Multiple track records broken last night

The best horses or best performances go to Blazin Lou and Starstruck Dreamer
Impressive miles in those conditions. The 2 year old colt pace final is completely loaded with talent and will be a phenomenal race next week which will also have Shalom Hanover, Mr. Bear, Eastie Boy and Night Surfer

Honorable mentions to Blue Ranger, Big Ranger's full sister and Lifetime Dreamer 2 CT

Finally my brother and I bet 187 and won 128 for a $59 loss
We don't go ape shit betting together like I do solo. Pools to small. To much chalk.

Breeders Crown held in late October in the north at a facility without a climate controlled grandstand. Very smart! Nobody in harness racing cares about the customer/fan.
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Harness Racing / Breeders Crown Night 1 Summary
« Last post by JT on Today at 09:25:14 AM »
Everyone on here knows I was there last night since I live in Delaware
So a few brief observations..

The crowd was awful. I know the weather sucked, like really sucked, but I was shocked there weren't more people in the clubhouse at least. It was half full. Grandstand was empty, maybe 20 people including my brother and I freezing our asses off ngc3
I always stick up for my state, but that was pitiful Ohio.

The handle sucked, about $700,000. I don't think there was any CAW in play which is good for the gambler but bad for optics if anyone truly cares in the first place The post drag was awful, but was expected

The races were kind of average. That is to be expected with eliminations where making the final is really the only goal. The track crew did a good job. Multiple track records broken last night

The best horses or best performances go to Blazin Lou and Starstruck Dreamer
Impressive miles in those conditions. The 2 year old colt pace final is completely loaded with talent and will be a phenomenal race next week which will also have Shalom Hanover, Mr. Bear, Eastie Boy and Night Surfer

Honorable mentions to Blue Ranger, Big Ranger's full sister and Lifetime Dreamer 2 CT

Finally my brother and I bet 187 and won 128 for a $59 loss
We don't go ape shit betting together like I do solo. Pools to small. To much chalk.


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Harness Racing / Re: The BC Elims at Scioto
« Last post by Inside The Track on Today at 09:11:57 AM »
How about Greg Luther and his Prolific Stable. Complete bust. This guy makes AMAC look good.
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Harness Racing / Re: The BC Elims at Scioto
« Last post by JT on Today at 09:03:30 AM »
I came up with just shy of $700,000 by my math as well
Pathetic handle
Being trackside, there was no CAW in play either I don't think
That IS a good thing, but it greatly reduces handle.
Like you've always said Meadowlands gets to about 3 million handle per night
But almost half of that is CAW which is awful for the average better
Harness racing is dying for many reasons, no need to rehash that.
Lower pools is why I find myself betting tbreds way more now
Saratoga t-breds have over a million dollars in one  pick 5 pool on a regular Saturday card
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