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« Last post by Trigger on December 10, 2025, 08:55:51 PM »
In defense of Burke he openly admitted he is there for the big dough. If he could forgo elims and get a buy into a final he'd prefer. He uses guys like Gingras because he's not going to cook his horse they're seeking to still peak in a big race. He's not a hot head and totally with the game plan. Even if that plan fucks the backers, he uses finesse to make the effort look good. The guy isn't kosher, he could gas to win and lose, some frightening shit! Otherwise how the hell does he win some finals at high digit or double digit odds, because they look impossible. And how is that 
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« Last post by Trigger on December 10, 2025, 08:46:22 PM »
When I owned four cheap claimers at Pompano over 30 years ago, there were many wealthy owners and lots of big name trainers in south Florida. But in all the years of following harness racing, i've never seen one trainer as dominant as Ron Burke. It would seem that he has an entry in every big race all over the country. I can't speak to how he gets the results he achieves.
And owner too. Like the mafia, they all plan on going legit. You can't though in harness racing. You saw what the Noble's did before they got tossed, they could beat any horse on the planet with as bad as a garbage pail.
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« Last post by Trigger on December 10, 2025, 08:43:11 PM »
No one who figures is sitting 3rd behind a 99-1 shot if they have speed to the top, however many takes and retakes it's lining up 1-1 & 1-1 in that scenario. What race did you watch?
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« Last post by Brown jug on December 10, 2025, 08:42:51 PM »
yikes
that is concerning
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« Last post by dougie on December 10, 2025, 08:42:23 PM »
When I owned four cheap claimers at Pompano over 30 years ago, there were many wealthy owners and lots of big name trainers in south Florida. But in all the years of following harness racing, i've never seen one trainer as dominant as Ron Burke. It would seem that he has an entry in every big race all over the country. I can't speak to how he gets the results he achieves.
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« Last post by Trigger on December 10, 2025, 08:37:07 PM »
Openin day at OAKLAWN. RACE 8. 2 year old colts runnin at 5 and 1/2 furlongs. HE SPEED. He be the 6,SPUN DMC in a $150,000 stake.
He the opening line favorite at 5-2. I not bet 2 year olds,and watchin me funds anyhow at this point and I knows got me TV that I could watch the race,but OLLIE the owner told me to call him Sunday to give me info on how the colt comes out of race. Maybe TRIG,can call me and give me the play by play.
Of course I'll call you. The race is 3:52 pm your time, could put the race audio on for you live on the call, or call you afterwards and do a replay...you tell me. How's Miss Masters Degrees, you break bread with her yet? 
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« Last post by Trigger on December 10, 2025, 08:27:46 PM »
Yeh, don't be a grinch...bring wine, booze, a big bottle, bring two red & white  good dope if it's that kind of crowd. I host eaters, so I want none of their food, homemade or store bought. Get a haircut, take a bath, wash that crusty asshole. Act like a human being for a fucking change even if you aren't one. Agree, don't fart, with that said...if you're feeling gassy sit next to the oldest most out it person (or the family dog), unless that's you already, you're shit out of luck, in the can and bring matches. No religion no politics, try to control yoself - you're with decent people, not at Plop!
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« Last post by firhill on December 10, 2025, 08:16:39 PM »
......that (all) drivers abide by.
We all know the even money (or less) shot allows the give and go to let some 99/1 shot end up in the pocket from an outside post.
What about when a 1/1 shot is forced to take the pocket by another 1/1 shot only to then have the leading 1/1 shot attempt the above give and go with the 99/1 outsider?
Is it also an unwritten rule that the 1/1 shot that had to take the pocket CANNOT pull out right on the back of the 99/1 shot, go around him, denying the leader the chance to complete the give and go with the 99/1 shot, forcing him to tag around in the 3-hole behind the 99/1 shot?
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I don't think there's an absolute, but most trainers I've spoke with who take deals, do so to get horses in the barn and because it's easier to do so when owners don't want to pay the bill(s). I am sure most of them think they will make out better, but then again, generally, horse trainers aren't great businessmen-----especially the majority that take deals, LOL. I think it's foolish for the trainer to take a horse on a deal unless the purses are high enough to make it worthwhile. At the lower end of any track, it just won't work for the trainer. I've seen many go broke.
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« Last post by Allofasudden on December 10, 2025, 08:12:47 PM »
Always had his favorites. Makes it known . But who else will work at Chester
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