Does anyone know what a monthly training bill is at Yonkers if given to one of the trainers there? Was told it's far more expensive to race there>  with daily rate, shipping, tolls, stall rent, vets, etc. etc

Money is great, but what does a horse need to make a year for an owner to make a profit?

Growing up I remember going to "Old Hilltop" when Roosevelt wasn't racing. What a horrible ugly place it was. I haven't seen it since they put the casino there so I gotta assume it's look a lot better now. I'm glad they are doing well there.

Tonight I listened to the podcast between Mike P and Trigger online. I wasn't looking for anything spectacular or groundbreaking. What I did see and hear was that Mike P is unapologetic about his work trying to expose bad actors within the harness racing industry and save as many horses as he could. Whether thay are attached to a sulky or dragging around well heeled tourists through Central Park, I know Mike P's efforts are sincere. There is little doubt he knows more about certain "plopsters" than I will ever know. In that regard, i'm very lucky. LOL! The fact that he does not "dox" people he obviously knows shows he is not vindictive. The "talk" was good. I think when you have people actually discuss matters, you understand where they are coming from.

Is Mickey doing some training too?

jogging for deters for sure---training, i'll find out.

You and I both have similar opinions on many things. I think the banter, at least most of it is harmless. But you have to admit, youv'e got people who seem to know each other personally. I listen but try not to get involved in this personal feuds. I just know on a personal level that I respect what Mike does.

I've signed out of the discussion.
Let me know if they say anything new or interesting.