CON-federate vs. Bythemissal TVG pace November 25th!

[Bitter Truth]

 Never heard. Did he 'Rip any bridles off?' Wasn't sure. One or two might have gotten snagged as he was backing thru the field.

[Harness racer]

Bad decision making by Timmy.  I feel like he could've tucked 5th but who knows.  But had no chance with that trip.

[Jackie Mo]

not going to find many horses losing just once vs 3 yos

you are an idiot

Niatross lost twice--does this make Confederate better than Niatross?

fucking dope

[Bitter Truth]

 You should have stopped after:" But he had no chance"...end of story. Nice three yr old. In 'WAY' over his head against those.

[Bernie Madoff]

I think the owners should petition the USTA to change his name to Counterfeit.

[Jackie Mo]

Allywag really got untracked by that awful accident in Canada. It took him over 6 weeks  to find consistent form. He hasnt been that bad since then and he beat Bythemissal at Hoosier and Fan Duel.  Bythemissal is a great horse, do not get me wrong but this isnt the second coming of Artsplace or Bulldog. Its very very tough to dominate a group the entire season.

Artsplace was dominated by Precious Bunny all of 1991

your really need to learn history

[Jackie Mo]

Confederate was managed not to lose. That is not greatness.

The same could be said for SBSW

[Lance]

I'm "POSITIVE" (No pun intended), tat the story line will be that Confederate scoped sick.  Bowden is a known liar and will do anything to cover up his greedy mistake that ended in a loss.

You are 100% right, they'll say he scoped sick...same whole story.   That being said, we need more of this, this is what horse racing is. These days people race horses like this not to get beat. They had a good horse and wanted to take on older horses.....it didn't work out but they took a shot.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

You are 100% right, they'll say he scoped sick...same whole story.   That being said, we need more of this, this is what horse racing is. These days people race horses like this not to get beat. They had a good horse and wanted to take on older horses.....it didn't work out but they took a shot.

If they had balls, they should bring Counterfeit, I mean Confederate back to race at 4.

[Laag]

Artsplace was dominated by Precious Bunny all of 1991

your really need to learn history

Duh..im talking about Artsplace as an aged pacer and Bythemissal aint even close.

Somehow this horse has a ton of fanboys who are so consumed with Confederate  hate that they are forgetting  their superstar Bythemissal didnt  win last night

[Brown jug]

off that trip isnt allywag supposed to do exactly what he did
if allywag didnt win i would say that was a poor race on his part
perfect trip
you are supposed to win off that kind of trip
nothing wrong with bythemissle,got beat by a very good horse who tripped out on his back

[Laag]

He won the Meadowlands Pace elimination jerkoff. He also won the American National at Balmoral breaking the world record. You're a moron.

Ooh he won a pace elimination  than had his lunch handed to him by The Panderosa who won the 2 top races that year

The Triple Croqn in harness racing has been outdated for 30 years. The top 2 races are the North America Cup and Meadowlands Pace. if you want to use the Jug as part of the TC fine so there you go but the idea of winning 3 races on half mile tracks as some level of greatness  while comparing to modern day racing where the Meadowlands and Mohawk are the standards is silly

Confederate didnt race in the half mile because there is no reason to. Same reason why Beach and Treacherous  didnt. They all proved themselves  everywhere else

Ask Its My Show and Seven Colors who turned into vegatables after the Jug

[Laag]

off that trip isnt allywag supposed to do exactly what he did
if allywag didnt win i would say that was a poor race on his part
perfect trip
you are supposed to win off that kind of trip
nothing wrong with bythemissle,got beat by a very good horse who tripped out on his back

Pound for pound resume wise Allywag is the better horse overall

[Lance]

Confederate didnt race in the half mile because there is no reason to. Same reason why Beach and Treacherous  didnt. They all proved themselves  everywhere else

SBSW won the Battle of Waterloo,  (elims and final), the Confederation Cup (elim and final)  and that race at Yonkers in the rain all on a 1/2 mile.

[wizardofoz]

All we heard before the race was being a 3 year old didn’t matter. After the race it was a big thing. However,  lets look at the other open races where there was just one 3 year old in each.
Open pacing mares. 3 year old wins.
Open mare trot. 3 year old 2 nd
Open colt trot . 3 year old 2 nd
Open colt pace 3 year old.   9 th.

Now we will see what reason from the book of excuses of why a horse got beat the connections use.

True, but the others did not get post 9 which is a very difficult thing to overcome in any race. If CON-federate drew an inside post he would not have been 8th.